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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Apr 3, 2010 #5481 of 10306
    donnoh

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    This may have already been addressed but how does this affect existing settings as far as cable card pairing is concerned. I'm assuming that it is a completely new image like it was restored off of InstantCake?

    I like the fact that I can upgrade to 2TB but I don't want to have to deal with a truck roll to fix the cable card issue.
     
  2. Apr 4, 2010 #5482 of 10306
    Tivogre

    Tivogre Active Member

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    You will need to re-pair the card - but it shouldn't take a truck roll.

    Just call the cable provider and tell them that you CC has lost it's channels. They should be able to re-authorize it while you are on the phone.

    Since nothing has really changed re the pairing, there should be no issue.

     
  3. Apr 4, 2010 #5483 of 10306
    Dr_Diablo

    Dr_Diablo Dr_Diablo

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    that would be sweet, what with a 4 GB x ternal drive out there that would be the altimate storage device
     
  4. Apr 4, 2010 #5484 of 10306
    jlib

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    Carmel...
    Since I am too lazy to open my S3 to do a wdidle update, I will always know the answer to that. Currently it is "No" (and I do not expect it to ever be incorporated).
     
  5. Apr 4, 2010 #5485 of 10306
    jlib

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    Carmel...
    One of the early, now archaic, methods of upgrading Series 3 TiVos (the so-called Bumwine Method) simply used Linux dd utility to make an exact clone and then mfsadd from mfstools to expand into the remaining space on the new drive. So, as long as that cloning system is OS neutral and does a bit by bit clone equivalent to what dd does, then there is no reason it shouldn't work for a 1TB drive.
     
  6. Apr 4, 2010 #5486 of 10306
    ayman86

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    well, i thought the update caused the reason winmfs not see the drive as a tivo drive but i just tried it now. still the same,

    anyone know the reason?
     
  7. Apr 4, 2010 #5487 of 10306
    distortedimage

    distortedimage New Member

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    I'm having this problem as well. I guess the update got pushed through. Are there any fixes yet?
     
  8. Apr 5, 2010 #5488 of 10306
    bizco

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    Has anyone found a solution to run wdidle3 without a SATA motherboard? I have a Series 2, looking to install an EVDS manufactured in February. I did all of the MFS and Instantcaking through an external enclosure.

    I ran searches for wdidle3 + IDE and wdidle3 + USB and didn't find anything. I also browsed through this thread to no avail (lots of other good info, though:))

    Thanks.
     
  9. Apr 5, 2010 #5489 of 10306
    bizco

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    Okay, so after a few hits and lots of misses over the past couple of weeks, I finally got my Series 2 540140 up and running with a new 1TB WD10EVDS. My main problem came in realizing that I needed to disable Intellipark. This post might be reinventing the wheel, but maybe it'll help someone.

    I needed:
    Old TiVo
    New HD
    Weaknees SATA to IDE adapter+cable (necessary? I dunno. I tried one of the ones listed in the adapter thread but it seemed bootleg. I'd say just make sure to get an adapter and not a converter :eek:)
    InstantCake
    MFS Linux
    wdidle3.exe

    #1: Load InstantCake. Directions are on the website. However, I used an external HD enclosure and followed the excellent instructions outlined here:

    (Links not allowed*. It's a post on the MFSLive Forums called "Success using InstantCake, MFSLive, and SATA-only components.")

    #2: Follow Drey's post about wdidle3.exe

    (Links not allowed. It's in the FAQ.)

    You CAN use the Weaknees adapter to disable Intellipark (I didn't have it when loading the InstantCake image, so I had to go the SATA to USB route.)

    #3 Put in the new HD! Blue side of the IDE into the mobo, black in the HD.

    As simple as that once you figure out what to do.
    Thanks to everyone that helped with the FAQ. :)

    *If I averaged 1 post per year I'd be allowed to post a link. That's embarrassing. :(
     
  10. Apr 5, 2010 #5490 of 10306
    donnoh

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    Does WinMFS not work with version 11.0g anymore?
     
  11. Apr 5, 2010 #5491 of 10306
    ayman86

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    well i had the same problem before updating. i believe i was on 11.0d. cant comment for certain though
     
  12. Apr 5, 2010 #5492 of 10306
    Tivogre

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    Are you running Windows 7?

    If so, you must run WinMFS as administrator - otherwise it does not see the drive.

    To do this, Right Click the icon and select "Run as Administrator".
     
  13. Apr 5, 2010 #5493 of 10306
    ayman86

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    thats not that the issue when the fact it sees the drive just fine.
     
  14. Apr 5, 2010 #5494 of 10306
    grit

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    I could use some help please.

    About 4 months ago, I bought my second Tivo HD, and a new WD green 1TB drive. I followed the directions here exactly and successfully replaced the stock HDD with the 1TB drive. I had no problems whatsoever for 4 months.

    Last Saturday, the tv was blank and only the green light on the Tivo was on. Several reboots resulted in the same. The Tivo boots, says "almost there", hangs with the green light (only) on. Eventually, the tv goes blank and the green light goes off. To troubleshoot, I pulled the 1TB drive and put the original drive back in. Everything worked as it was supposed to.

    So, I pulled the 1TB drive out and ran a "in depth" disk check. No reported errors. So, followed the directions on this thread, exactly. I repeated everything just like I did the first time when this worked. However, the Tivo still hangs.

    What could possibly be causing that? The drive shows no errors, but Tivo now rejects it. Any ideas/suggestions???

    PS - I know I already lost all the recordings when i did the disk check, so no need to worry about saving data. i just want my 1TB drive back working OR I want to find a reliable way of finding out that the drive is faulty.
     
  15. Apr 5, 2010 #5495 of 10306
    S3-2501

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    If the original drive works fine, maybe try doing a truncated backup of it and then putting that on the new drive instead of a full copy. Which WD green drive did you get, and if it's a newer one, did you disable intellipark with wdidle?
     
  16. Apr 5, 2010 #5496 of 10306
    grit

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    Sorry, I should have clarified - I did do a truncated backup. However, i also deleted all of the content from the original hard drive too (not that it should matter for a truncated copy, right?)

    This is the first I've heard of intellipark. I dont recall doing anything else to the drive. However, in the past, I had made a change (cant remember what it was called, but I got it from this website) that makes seeks quieter on the drive at the expense of speed I believe. However, i think the WD green drive was quiet enough and I dont think I did that this time.

    Would this Intellipark thing cause a problem that isn't fixed with rebooting??
     
  17. Apr 5, 2010 #5497 of 10306
    cjv2

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    The sound-related setting you reference is called AAM (automatic acoustic management).

    The Intellipark thing is different. It is power-saving technology introduced late last year on the WD Green drives. For whatever reason the Tivo software doesn't get along with it and you wind up with issues like failure of soft reboots and getting stuck at the "Powering Up" screen. The workaround is to disable the Intellipark feature using an old WD utility that only runs in DOS.

    That said, I don't know if anyone here has heard of an Intellipark drive running fine for 4 months and then going weird because of Intellipark. All the discussions I'm aware of have involved trouble right out of the box.
     
  18. Apr 5, 2010 #5498 of 10306
    bubagump

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    Another success report upgrading with WD20EVDS 2TB drive with Mr. Broflovski's 2TB image. My Tivo now shows 318hrs of HD space available (see attached photo). Kudos and thanks to Mr. Broflovski. Truly amazing work..
    Feels like a nice accomplishment! Thanks to tivogre, emerz and tincup for their technical help since I am a novice (first time upgrading a tivo drive).
    Although, it was somewhat of an hassle to get the cable company to pair the cablecard to the new drive. That took way more time that all the steps involving wdidle, hddscan and winmfs combined.
     

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  19. Apr 5, 2010 #5499 of 10306
    chrishicks

    chrishicks Tivo Junkie

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    I'm just hoping an S3 image turns up before the start of the fall TV season as I have 3 of them I want to upgrade to 2TB instead of adding 1TB external drives to each. If not I'll have to eat the extra $150.00+ and order from DVR_Dude on Ebay since I've already been extremely close to filling up a 1TB drive a few times.
     
  20. Apr 6, 2010 #5500 of 10306
    grit

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    YES! AAM. Thanks for that! Turns out the Intellipark/DWDIdle3 utility doesn't ever recognize the drive in question.


    However, I finally got the drive to work! Almost...


    After performing ANOTHER truncated backup, and it worked! Woo-hoo! Of course, Tivo had a long download to complete, so I forced a connection to the service and let it do its thing overnight. When i woke up, Tivo said it was pending a restart. So I went into the menu and did a restart.

    Now, I'm back where I started. It goes to the "powering up" screen and stays there, forever. Why would it work with the old image, but fail after I do an update??

    :(
     

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