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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Apr 1, 2010 #5441 of 10248
    richsadams

    richsadams Active Member

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    :eek: :eek: :eek: AbMagFab must have gotten an early model since they apparently hadn't perfected the dye pack yet....

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=7849400#post7849400

    By gosh I hope someone comes up with a work-around. Our Premiere XL is due to hit our doorstep tomorrow (hopefully not literally) and I've been eyeing those 2TB deals recently.

    :D
     
  2. Apr 1, 2010 #5442 of 10248
    MPSAN

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    Rich, I wonder if it is always Orange Dye?

    Anyway, I think you said that you were getting the 1TB one. I guess it is too soon to know if WINmfs will still work with the series 4. I hope yours comes today. All 3 of mine are fine now and I posted a long message on how I got them all running again, and how I got my shows off the "bad" drive. I guess no one cared so I will not do that again.

    Stay dry,

    Dave
     
  3. Apr 1, 2010 #5443 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Hey Dave...my understanding is that the new Premiere's have a tiny, tiny (less than a micron) thread connected from the cover of the box to the bottom so that if anyone removes the case, whammo...it's bricked. Guess we'll have to wait and see. ;)

    BTW your info was very valuable. I wouldn't worry about no one posting about it. Folks will follow that will be very grateful for your hard work and tenacity. Sun's out! Woo hoo!
     
  4. Apr 1, 2010 #5444 of 10248
    Phantom Gremlin

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    Seriously? You think you need 2 TB?

    I've just recently upgraded 3 (out of 4) HD units to 1 TB each. That's 157 hours each of HD. Hard to envision free space being a problem anytime soon.

    But the Premiere also has a very interesting improvement: file transfers are much much faster. So using something like kmttg and a home NAS would let you have "virtually unlimited" storage without hassles. kmttg has a few buglets in it, but overall it works fine on my iMac. It's ridiculously easy to copy files off the TiVos. Unfortunately, with the TiVo HD boxes, it's also ridiculously slow. :)
     
  5. Apr 1, 2010 #5445 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Actually we've been pretty happy with 1TB...it's just the old Tim the Tool Man itch to make things bigger, better, faster. Besides, for some folks, 2TB is child's play. I only ordered one...how about eight! :eek:

    Yep, I have iTiVo transferring some recordings from the S3 to my MacBook as we speak. Great for on the road when the Slingbox can't be accessed. The S3 transfers are pretty decent compared to the THD. Is the Premiere even faster?
     
  6. Apr 1, 2010 #5446 of 10248
    Phantom Gremlin

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    I don't have any personal experience with the Premiere. I'm running out of rooms to put boxes in, so I don't think I'll get one anytime soon. bkdtv has posted some amazing charts in the Premiere FAQ. Here's one:

    [​IMG]
     
  7. Apr 1, 2010 #5447 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Sweet! I hadn't taken the time to look through the Premiere FAQ, thanks for that. Looks like transfers and MRV are up there as well (WAY up there for transfers using TS!) Darn, I might have to "justify" a second Premiere to replace the Series3 one of these days. :rolleyes: :)
     
  8. Apr 1, 2010 #5448 of 10248
    MPSAN

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    Phantom and Rich, the Sun will not be out for long.

    I, too, wonder why 1TB is not enough. In fact, 2 of my 3 THD's are still stock.
     
  9. Apr 1, 2010 #5449 of 10248
    richsadams

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    In my case (besides the "Tim Taylor" thing) we like to have a back stock of things to choose from depending on our mood. The deeper the selection the better I feel for whatever reason. Plus there are the various "drought" periods where nothing good seems to be on. We often record a whole season's worth of a program that we think we'll like but we don't watch it until something falls off of our favorites list or goes on hiatus or something. Then we have something else to watch instead. There are mini-series that we record for later as well and then there are those "guy" and "chick" things we'll opt to watch when the other is not around.

    I also use the second TiVo to record programs so I can watch them when I'm on the road (using Slingbox), unless we have guests, then I transfer them to my computer so I'm not changing channels while they're trying to watch TV. :eek:

    Plus, although it's rare, there will be three or four things on at the same time that we want to record, so we press both TiVo's into service and then transfer the recordings later. So the more space the better (for us) I guess. I'd rather do some housecleaning and dump things once in a while than find myself confronted with having nothing that I really want to watch or worse, have to delete something so I can record something else.

    Again...compared to some, we're amateurs! ;)

    Ooooo, you're right. Time to mow the lawn!
     
  10. Apr 1, 2010 #5450 of 10248
    MPSAN

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    Thanks Rich. Well our lawn was mowed this morning. Anyway, I am getting V and Life now but that is a long way from filling up the 1TB THD. We do some MRV when we need >2 tuners. In fact Thursday is a big night.

    Anyway, our son gets some of our shows for his PC (Windows Vista) and says a 1 hour show takes >2 hours to transfer. Is there an app that he can get to make this go much smoother? There must be something for Vista systems out there as we are now "the planet of the apps" are we not?
     
  11. Apr 2, 2010 #5451 of 10248
    richsadams

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    What's he using to transfer recordings, TiVo Desktop? It should run at at least like-for-like speed (1 hr. recording takes 1 hr. transfer). Not sure why it would take twice as long.

    He could try KMTTG. I haven't tried it with Windows but I used it up until I upgraded to Snow Leopard on our Macs and it worked very well. It requires Rosetta w/Mac and I did a clean SL install and decided not to avoid 32 bit programs like Rosetta. I'm aiming to run all 64 bit. So far so good. iTiVo works for me now. But I digress. Anyway, see if KMTTG works any better.
     
  12. Apr 2, 2010 #5452 of 10248
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    I don't know if this is helpful to post or not, but I thought I'd post that my TivoHD with a WD10EVDS drive (intellipark set to 3720seconds/62.0 minutes via the /d switch) successfully updated to the latest 11.0g software last night. More evidence that the hassle of "disabling" intellipark does seem to solve any soft-boot or software update issues.
     
  13. Apr 2, 2010 #5453 of 10248
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    That is good to know. :up: It's also interesting that they pushed v11.0f to a few boxes a few weeks ago but are now are rolling out v11.0g. :confused: Hmmm...
     
  14. Apr 2, 2010 #5454 of 10248
    Tivogre

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    The unit just took the latest software update from tivo (11.0g) with no issues.

    It's been getting guide data and making regular calls to tivo for a couple of months now.

    All is well; I am enjoying the 1.5 TB of space.

    I would definitely deem this a stable hack.

    If anyone has / does do a full 2TB internal drive, let us know how it works, and how much space is reported.
     
  15. Apr 2, 2010 #5455 of 10248
    richsadams

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    That would be valuable info indeed. What I'd really like to know is if the current WD GP drives can be used for upgrades w/o modifying the Intellipark feature. TiVo corrected the issue on the THD XL's, so I'm wondering if the latest update (11.0g) addresses that and we can go back to recommending the WD drives free and clear. Hopefully someone will give it a go soon and post the results.
     
  16. Apr 2, 2010 #5456 of 10248
    emerz

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    Upgraded my Tivo HD with a Western Digital AV-GP WD20EVDS 2TB using Mr. Broflovski's hacked image after first disabling Intellipark with wdidle3. While it has only been two days since the upgrade, all appears to be work 100%.

    Recording time is reported as 318/2776. All in all, a worthwhile upgrade.

    Kudos to Mr. Broflovski !!

    [​IMG]
     
  17. Apr 2, 2010 #5457 of 10248
    Tivogre

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    Your 61 extra hours greatly taunts me!

    Would you be willing to set the wdidle value back to default to confirm whether the soft boot issue is indeed fixed?

     
  18. Apr 2, 2010 #5458 of 10248
    MPSAN

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    FYI, my 1 TB just upgraded to 11.0g and all was OK. I lost a ton of channels after it rebooted and had to connect again to get guide data. All is OK now but I am not sure why I lost stations until I did another reconnect.

    Rich and I are on the same FIOS system so I wonder how his is doing.
    P.S. I assume that the Image Hack co$t$.
     
  19. Apr 2, 2010 #5459 of 10248
    Tivogre

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    The image hack does NOT cost anything.

    It is a gift from the hacking community.

    In fact, one of the reasons it was done was to give another upgrade route, besides BUYING a pre-upgraded drive from someone on e-bay.

     
  20. Apr 2, 2010 #5460 of 10248
    MPSAN

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    Geeze! That is great!
     

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