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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Mar 15, 2010 #5301 of 10248
    cherry ghost

    cherry ghost Active Member

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    Bought the Hitachi earlier from Newegg. Can the upgrade be done with a sata to esata cable so I don't have to open up my computer? Sorry if it's been answered, I tried searching.
     
  2. Mar 16, 2010 #5302 of 10248
    richsadams

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    No prep to be done. The winMFS program automatically formats the drive. If it simply doesn't work, it's more than likely something is up with the drive.
     
  3. Mar 16, 2010 #5303 of 10248
    richsadams

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    The answer to your question is yes, you can use an eSATA connection instead of opening up your computer. You're right, the FAQ only references SATA > USB and hard drive docks. However you can connect old and/or new drive to your computer using an eSATA > SATA or eSATA > eSATA connection. Perhaps bkdtv can update those references.

    Happy upgrading!
     
  4. Mar 16, 2010 #5304 of 10248
    rainbow

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    pl1

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    As you quoted: "ends at midnight Pacific today" which was last night, and they WERE sold out. If they have them in stock, they must have decided to stop selling at that price I guess.(?) Because, last night, they showed as SOLD OUT.
     
  6. Mar 16, 2010 #5306 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Vendors often budget X amount of product at a particular price. When they meet their "goal" that's it. I guess it should say "Sold Out...at that price". ;)
     
  7. Mar 16, 2010 #5307 of 10248
    Brighton Line

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    Quick question as I've determiend the drive failing is my internal drive not the DVR Expander (figure that one out). Will "Preserve Settings Only" copy the cablecard paring?

    Cablevision would charge for a truck roll just to pair the cards again having a tech sit in my livinroom on the phone reading numbers off the screen, like I can't do that >G<.
     
  8. Mar 16, 2010 #5308 of 10248
    ADG

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    I recently asked the same question a few pages back and was assured that everything (except recordings) will be preserved.
     
  9. Mar 16, 2010 #5309 of 10248
    bciocco

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    Received my dock today and am in the middle of Mfscopy. I realized that, in my excitement to get started, I forgot to delete the "Recently Deleted" files. I guess I'll be here for a while. WinMFS is showing 5:05:02. :cool:
     
  10. Mar 16, 2010 #5310 of 10248
    rainbow

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    Well, at least you didn't burn up your old tivo hd like I did last weekend!:eek:

    (it wasn't working properly in my tivo originally which is why it was pulled. I had purchased an orig 250G hd for the same series 3 thru ebay awhile back, so that is the one that is in use right now).
     
  11. Mar 16, 2010 #5311 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Sorry to hear that. Yes, as long as your OS image isn't corrupted (if TiVo still starts up normally it should be fine) all of your settings, Season Passes, cable card pairing, etc. will be intact using a truncated backup (Preserve Settings Only).
     
  12. Mar 16, 2010 #5312 of 10248
    bciocco

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    Upgrade complete including AAM and copying all shows from existing drive. I now show 157HD hours. I did run MfsSuperSize.

    The upgrade took about six hours. I was a bit concerned at one point toward the end when I saw over 1 million hours left.

    There was also a confusing section near the end. Once I set the new drive as drive A, there isn't any way to know it's done.

    [​IMG]
     
  13. Mar 17, 2010 #5313 of 10248
    cliffdwelling

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    I bought a WD10EARS Caviar 1TB for my Zino(HD), but now am thinking of trying my first internal upgrade of my Tivo HD. I have been reading a lot of the threads and see that there are a few steps I need to do to make this work or maybe not. I hope someone can answer a couple of questions.
    1) Will this Advanced Format Drive work on Tivo HD? There have been mixed responses.
    2) Will the WD align software make it compatible ?
     
  14. Mar 17, 2010 #5314 of 10248
    richsadams

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    1. Yes. There were some concerns early on because of the change from legacy drive architecture however it ended up making no difference (to TiVo).

    2. No need to use it.

    There are several folks here that have used the WD10EARS successfully. More here:

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=7813256#post7813256

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=7814361#post7814361

    Happy upgrading!
     
  15. Mar 17, 2010 #5315 of 10248
    cliffdwelling

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    Thanks for the post links. I will report back after giving it a try.
     
  16. Mar 17, 2010 #5316 of 10248
    cwerdna

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    After all my trials and tribulations at http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=444895, I tried to remove external storage to see if it'd boot and I'm stuck in a loop where I disconnected answer clear, 3 thumbs down, enter and not next boot it asks me again. :( KS 52, 56, and 58 don't help this problem either. :( It seems like the stock drive's image is screwed, if not the drive itself.

    TivoJerry's opinion from a PM the night before (request for him to try to look at my logs) was the he wouldn't trust the drive at this point anyway.

    I think I'd rather void my warranty (I'm between the 90 day and 1 year mark already) and buy a 1 TB drive instead of paying $49 + shipping for a refurb 160 gig Tivo HD. At least that way, I'd have 1 TB and only a single point of failure vs. a 160 gig + 1 TB expander.

    I've read over the recommended drive list and obviously some people have had some luck w/drives not on the list, including the WD "EARS" (4K advanced sector) drives. Any others that are reasonably quiet (using AAM is ok), cheap and most importantly reliable that work well? I'm wary a bit wary of WD and no, I don't want any that have soft reboot problems.

    I would've jumped on the $67.99 newegg Hitachi deal but I didn't know for certain that I needed a drive at that point. Seems like the cheapest 1TB that's on the list and available now at newegg is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145304&Tpk=HDS721010CLA332.

    If it's available for cheap within reasonable drive of the Seattle area, that's even better!

    I could also open up my 1TB Expander and put that in my TiVo... but err.. WD... (It did pass WD's Lifeguard extended test.)
     
  17. Mar 17, 2010 #5317 of 10248
    bciocco

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    I did the upgrade with that drive last night. It was easy. I just followed the directions on the first post of this thread. It was time consuming (6 hours) because my drive was full. The toughest part is the waiting. If all you are doing is the truncated backup, it should take less than an hour. I did the AAM mod as well. It takes longer to download and decompress the HDD Scan (I used Free RAR Extract Frog) to make the mod than it takes to do it. The drive is quiet.

    When you set the AAM, move the slider, don't change the numbers. I changed the numbers a few times and they kept changing back when I hit save. Then, I noticed the slider, moved it all the way to the left, hit save, and it was done.

    Others have used the drive successfully and I have not read about any one having problems with it. Search the Forum for Hitachi and you will find others. The WinMFS Forum has some discussion regarding drives as well.
     
  18. Mar 17, 2010 #5318 of 10248
    Brighton Line

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    Amazon has it for $0.07 less then current new egg price but Amazon is in stock.
    FWIW
     
  19. Mar 17, 2010 #5319 of 10248
    pl1

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    Just got in the hitachi 1t drive from newegg! That was quick for free shipping and $67, eh? Not only that, it is a retail drive with a cable! I can always use another cable.
     
  20. Mar 17, 2010 #5320 of 10248
    pl1

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