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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Mar 3, 2010 #5141 of 10248
    Phantom Gremlin

    Phantom Gremlin New Member

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    It's NOT unusual.

    I currently have 1 dead TiVo HD and 1 dead 500 GB DVR expander. They died together.

    The dead TiVo HD won't boot far enough to be able to divorce the expander; the expander doesn't work with the replacement TiVo HD.
     
  2. Mar 3, 2010 #5142 of 10248
    cjv2

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    *cues Tom Jones*

    ;)
     
  3. Mar 4, 2010 #5143 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Oh thanks...just what I needed in my head before turning in. Nice. :mad: :D
     
  4. Mar 4, 2010 #5144 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Okay that makes two.
     
  5. Mar 4, 2010 #5145 of 10248
    johnspalm

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    Another successful upgrade to note.........

    Since I wanted to avoid the whole Intellipark thing with the WDs, I recently bought a Hitachi Deskstar 1TB (HD31000) for an internal upgrade. I performed the upgrade last night doing an HDDScan and MFScopy. Replaced the drive in the box and fired it up. All is good!

    A few minor obstacles............

    1) One of the screws that secures the disk cradle to the box was stripped, so I had to improvise and do a little bending to get the disk off.

    2) I connected the new disk to my computer and mounted it (i.e. assigned a drive letter) before I did anything else. Bad idea. WinMFS does not like mounted disks. I unmounted it and I was able to move forward. Moral of the story here is LEAVE THE NEW DISK ALONE. Just plug it in.

    3) Stupid me left too many programs in the Recently Deleted folder. The copy ended up taking 2-3 hours.

    Minor inconveniences, but, all turned out well.

    (BTW, I am a former DVD Expander user. It bit the dust after 18 months, as usual.)
     
  6. Mar 4, 2010 #5146 of 10248
    schwinn

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    richadams: I just want to thank you, publicly, for your excellent information here, and your overall demeanor. I participate on many forums for various things, and rarely do I ever find someone who is just so damn patient and nice with every one of their posts - no matter how often someone asks the same question over and over, you reply simply and kindly, as if it was a new question.

    What's more, you never seem to get annoyed at people when they make the same mistaken statements or anything.

    I commend you on your ability to do this, time after time. And I (and probably many others) thank you for your continued, detailed tracking of all there is to know about drive upgrades!
     
  7. Mar 4, 2010 #5147 of 10248
    jlib

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    Indeed! richadams along with FAQ maintainer bkdtv are a true one two punch. Knowledge is power...
     
  8. Mar 4, 2010 #5148 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Ah shucks guys <kicking instep>..you're way to kind. :eek: It's a labor of love...I've gotten so much great advice from others here that the least I can do is give back when I can. (Both of you have done your share too BTW) Plus it's a great break from the oft times tedious work I do to keep a roof over our collective heads. Cheers for that! :)

    P.S. Agreed w/o bkdtv, this thread could have been dead in the water years ago!

    Okay...and a one and a two and a three..Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya... :D
     
  9. Mar 4, 2010 #5149 of 10248
    PhiTauBill

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    It would probably be pure speculation at this point, but does anyone have an idea of whether the new Tivo Premiere models will be user upgradeable with respect to the internal drive? Any possibility of support for drives bigger than 1.5TB?

    I've had my issues with mt TivOHDs and the DVR Expanders, and solved those on my TivoHD units by using 1TB internal upgrades as noted in this forum. I'd like to purchase a new TivoPremiere, but I'd prefer not to pay a $200 premium for a 1TB drive and I probably don't want to do so unless I am confident that the unit could recover in the event of a hard drive failure (thanks tot he backup created in the upgrade process).

    Thoughts, speculation, conjecture?
     
  10. Mar 4, 2010 #5150 of 10248
    richsadams

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    I was wondering the same thing myself. Of course no one will know for sure until they attempt it. So you're stepping up to be a TiVo Pioneer? It comes with a lifetime membership to the Pioneers Club you know. ;)

    My WAG is yes we'll be able to upgrade them because I can't imagine TiVo spending the time/money necessary to rework everything from the ground up and they've turned a blind eye at least until now. I don't see any "features" that would preclude a hard drive upgrade. By example there is far more commonality between the original Series1's and the TiVo HD's than differences. I've no idea if a 1.5TB drive (or larger) will be applicable. I guess only time will tell.

    I'm really tempted to get a Premiere and give it a spin. It would be the 320GB model for the DIY upgrade opportunity...but I might wait. Prices usually drop after 6 months. Hmmm...
     
  11. Mar 4, 2010 #5151 of 10248
    MPSAN

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    I was wondering about that myself, although my 3 THD's are just fine.

    Anyway, I would think they left everything alone in the OS, or they could have had the XL fitted with a 1.5 or 2 tb drive!
     
  12. Mar 4, 2010 #5152 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Soooo...you're inferring that there is some sort of correlation between having something that works and acquiring something new? :rolleyes: I'd still be driving my '72 Pinto if that were the case. :eek: :D
     
  13. Mar 4, 2010 #5153 of 10248
    MPSAN

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    Well, I can live without the HD Menu's! :D
     
  14. Mar 5, 2010 #5154 of 10248
    schwinn

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    Doh! I missed mentioning bkdtv in that post... I agree that he, too, is very helpful and kind to everyone on this board. Thank you, too, bkdtv.

    And, he seems to know SO much about the details in these things... almost makes me wonder if he's a spy! :)
     
  15. Mar 5, 2010 #5155 of 10248
    innocentfreak

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    I finally caved since I had a buyer for 2 of my HDs. After the upgrade problems I had since I was one of the ones bit first by the new WD drives not working, I just decided to go with the XL.

    This is my concern also, but I figure with the upgrade offer off $100 off lifetime they would have to drop more than $100 for it to be cheaper.
     
  16. Mar 5, 2010 #5156 of 10248
    dt100

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    I am now leaning towards the 1TB internal upgrade option, and not taking the chance with the external. I might be able to use my PC at work to run the disable program on the WD. So, not sure if there is a clear answer to this question, but is there a preference now between the WD AV drive (I believe it is the EVDS model) and the Hitachi 7k1000.c? Thanks for your patience with all of my questions.
     
  17. Mar 5, 2010 #5157 of 10248
    richsadams

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    I didn't see the $100 off lifetime offer...ugh, that makes it even more attractive.

    Oh honey...did you see this? It's a great deal! No, really! ;)
     
  18. Mar 5, 2010 #5158 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Good move. Both drives need to be tweaked. The WD Intellipark "feature" timeout needs to be extended or disabled and the Hitachi needs the AAM tuned to 128 (although it's very quite out of the box) so there's a little work to be done either way. Based on my personal experience I've found them both to be reliable and they run quiet and cool.

    If you can find the WD10EVDS that's good as the AAM is already tuned to 128. Most retailers are now selling the WDEARS models though...which seem to work fine as well but may need the AAM tuned to 128 (although I hear they are very quiet already - no pun intended). If you do go with the Hitachi be sure it's the HD31000 IDK/7K (7K1000.C model as you posted, not the 7K1000 which is much noisier).

    Happy upgrading!
     
  19. Mar 5, 2010 #5159 of 10248
    justen_m

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    The Hitatchi seems popular. I just upgraded my TivoHD with it this morning and everything ran flawlessly. You should run HDDScan to change the AAM setting to 128 to quiet things down.

    I went with the Hitatch because it was listed in this FAQ as being compatible, while the WD EVDS has some issues that need to be dealt with. See questions 28 and 29 in section IV of this FAQ for details. I don't have the hardware required to fix a newly manufactured fix the Intellipark EVDS drive.
     
  20. Mar 5, 2010 #5160 of 10248
    alyssa

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    how soon till you crack the case open?
    :D
     

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