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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Feb 14, 2010 #4961 of 10248
    rocko

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    rocko

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    Looks good. You may want to modify the narrative a tiny bit:

    3. Boot from the above CD - hit "Enter" within 15 seconds to boot to DOS and run "wdidle3 /D" to disable IntelliPark on the WD drive. The message should indicate that idle feature has been disabled.

    Thanks and keep up the good work :up:
     
  5. Feb 14, 2010 #4965 of 10248
    donnoh

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    After reading this thread for the first time in several months I'm wondering if I should should keep a drive on standby just in case they start making drives that won't be compatible with Tivos?
    It looks like the WD drives can be problematic if a utility is not run before installing in a Tivo. Can it get better in the next months?
    I'm thinking I might buy a couple of Hitachi drives the next time they go on sale.
    I currently have two Tivo HDs, one with a WD10EVCS upgraded drive and one with an Hitachi 1tb 7k1000 drive. No problems with either but they both have lifetime and I don't want to lose that for lack of a compatible drive when a drive poops out.
    I don't care to spend a couple hundred now to forgo problems later. I also don't want to buy a couple drives today if in a year from now they are half as much.
    What do you recommend I do?
     
  6. Feb 14, 2010 #4966 of 10248
    rocko

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    I don't think they'll stop making compatable SATA drives anytime soon. The worst that can happen is they'll get cheaper. I'd keep a WinMFS backup handy just in case and kick back and relax. My $ .02.
     
  7. Feb 14, 2010 #4967 of 10248
    moxie1617

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    It's been two years and nine months since I installed the DB35 and the Antec MX-1 -- the fan finally failed in the Antec case, comes to $.06/day. Drive is still fine. Swapped cases with the one I use for off site backups, that only runs four hours a week so it can get by without a fan.

    Sure have enjoyed the extra hours and since swapping to the Siig e-sata cable have been problem free.
     
  8. Feb 15, 2010 #4968 of 10248
    PinWiz

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    My TivoHD with a My DVR Expander 500GB drive is having problems booting occasionally, so I figure this is a good time to do the 1TB internal upgrade. I purchased a WD10EVDS about a week ago from Amazon, and got lucky enough to get one dated Oct 23, which looks to predate the booting issue many have seen.

    I plan on copying a number of my recorded shows to my PC via Tivo Desktop before the upgrade, and then I will copy them back to the Tivo after the upgrade is done, since there doesn't appear to be any other method to preserve shows when both the original drive and Expander is present.

    My question is this, do I have to divorce the Expander before running WinMFS with the original internal drive doing preserve settings only? I would prefer not to in case I have problems with the upgrade and I could just go back to the setup I had previously.

    Thanks for all the great information in this thread!
     
  9. Feb 15, 2010 #4969 of 10248
    bkdtv

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    Yes.
     
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    Just to be on the safe side I would download the ISO file of the wdidle3 program posted on the first page and boot from that CD and run wdidle3 /R to see whether the timer is set on this drive (this reports the current timer value). If it is set, just run wdidle3 /D to disable the timer and then re-run wdidle3 /R to confirm whether it has indeed disabled the timer.
     
  11. Feb 15, 2010 #4971 of 10248
    kevinbuckeye

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    I want to upgrade my TivoHD and am considering:

    Seagate Pipeline 500GB ST3500312CS 9

    Everyone seems to say how loud the Seagates are, but 9 out of 10 on noise sounds pretty good to me. I only have a laptop, so I don't want to fool around with disabling Intellipark. The 500GB will be more than enough. I also noticed the Seagate ST3500321CS noise rating changed from 9 to 7. Is the ST3500312CS really a 9? If so I think I'm going to go with it.
     
  12. Feb 15, 2010 #4972 of 10248
    MPSAN

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    Good Deal on 1TB WD10EARS + Free External case at Newegg.
    $78.99 and free shipping! May not need case but at least it is FREE.

    LINK
     
  13. Feb 15, 2010 #4973 of 10248
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    I saw that this morning. It is a very good deal. I don't need a HDD and I already have a dock like that (which comes in very handy now and then...great for upgrades!) so I won't be ordering it, but it is quite the buy! :up:
     
  14. Feb 15, 2010 #4974 of 10248
    bkdtv

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    Note 9 = original drive.

    I originally had both the ST3500414CS and the ST3500312CS on the list. The ST3500414CS replaced the ST3500312CS, but when updating the list of drives, I deleted the wrong drive.

    Edit: Maybe the ST3500414CS didn't replace the ST3500312CS? I'm not able to find it anywhere online. Maybe that's why I removed it in the first place.

    You can read a review of the ST3500414CS here (measurements here). Some comparison measurements from that review, ranked in order of seek noise:

    Seeks on original TiVo drive would probably measure 14~15dB in a similar environment.

    If you have the means to connect a WD "Green" drive (ex: WD10EADS) internally with a SATA connector, as necessary to disable Intellimark, that may be the way to go. All of the 1TB drives on the list above are significantly louder than the WD "Green" drives, but they have the advantage of full compatibility out-of-the-box.

    The Western Digital WDxxEARS drives feature a unique 4KB physical sector. The TiVo was designed for use on drives with a traditional 512 Byte physical sector, so there could be a performance hit if using the TiVo software on those drives.

    I haven't seen any WD10EADS vs WD10EARS comparisons with a TiVo.
     
  15. Feb 15, 2010 #4975 of 10248
    richsadams

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    So far two members have upgraded their TiVo HD's with the WD10EARS drives:

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=7720023#post7720023

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=7736641#post7736641

    The first member followed up about a week later saying that all is well.

    It's been about a month and we'd probably hear about any issues they had, but perhaps they will confirm things are still good?
     
  16. Feb 15, 2010 #4976 of 10248
    Golfguy54

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    Over the last several months, I've followed this thread (and read every post)! Was getting ready after getting a 2nd TivoHD to upgrade to a WD1tb but then the s**t hit the fan with all the intellipark problems. Being quite computer illiterate I was concerned about going the self upgrade route. A couple weeks ago I decided to go for one of the 1.5gb upgrades from 'the dude'. Waited till after the Super Bowl and finally installed it last Friday just before the Olympics were to start. The install was a piece of cake & I was lucky that my m-card did not even need to be re-paired (Charter cable). So now I've got 237 hours available and can record every 'Olympic Moment' and then some. I really wish to thank Rich, Bkdtv, Allen and everyone else who's contributed to this thread and helps make this a GREAT forum.

    Dave
     
  17. Feb 15, 2010 #4977 of 10248
    Tivogre

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    So.... could a drive image, using WinMFS, from "the dude" be used to allow others to use 1.5 or 2TB drives in a THD?
     
  18. Feb 15, 2010 #4978 of 10248
    rocko

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    With WinMFS, probably not. A full-fledged binary copy probably would work, however.
     
  19. Feb 15, 2010 #4979 of 10248
    Tivogre

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    Why do you think WinMFS wouldn't work? It works with THD XLs, so it recognizes 1Tb partitions...
     
  20. Feb 15, 2010 #4980 of 10248
    rocko

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    It's been discussed ad nauseum. The current incarnation of WinMFS allows for the original drive size plus 1TB. Since the XL is originally 1TB, you can add another 1TB.

    One thread on mfslive.org:

    http://mfslive.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=257&start=45

    The "dude" doesn't charge an unreasonable premium for his drives, BTW. Just thought I'd throw that out there ...
     

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