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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Feb 11, 2010 #4941 of 10284
    MPSAN

    MPSAN Active Member

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    I think that some of the biggest issues with the TiVo is when some keep trying to "tape" shows. The slots are for M-Cards and not TAPES. Perhaps TiVo can add a slot for SVHS tapes in the next version.

    :D
     
  2. Feb 11, 2010 #4942 of 10284
    richsadams

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    I'd vote for a Betamax tape option...Beta's PQ was much better. :D
     
  3. Feb 11, 2010 #4943 of 10284
    MPSAN

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    Well, I try not to buy a Beta version of anything!
     
  4. Feb 11, 2010 #4944 of 10284
    reubanks

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    Heck, I'd personally to see the VX format like the Quasar VR-1000. (I had one of these in the 80s...) It sucked, but it sure was fun to show it to people!

    Randy
     
  5. Feb 11, 2010 #4945 of 10284
    reubanks

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    Sorry, duplicate post.
     
  6. Feb 11, 2010 #4946 of 10284
    richsadams

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    Okay...most obscure CE reference of the week winner! :D

    [​IMG]
     
  7. Feb 13, 2010 #4947 of 10284
    andrews777

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    I have one of them running in the first of my three TivoHD units I upgraded. I would have gone with that again, but the base post didn't note that as an option. :(

    I now have 2 Hitachi HD31000 units to put in. Ah well, I will see how these work.

    Brad
     
  8. Feb 13, 2010 #4948 of 10284
    andrews777

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    Well, I was wrong. It is there, but farther down, not right with the "*" comment that I read. :(

    Brad
     
  9. Feb 13, 2010 #4949 of 10284
    richsadams

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    Hi Brad. I have two of those Hitachi drives in a NAS and they are very quiet out of the box. You can use the HDDScan tool to adjust the AAM down to 128 which should make them even more quiet. They run very cool as well. I wouldn't hesitate to use one in our TiVo's should the need ever arise.

    Happy upgrading!
     
  10. Feb 13, 2010 #4950 of 10284
    andrews777

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    I just listened to both units. They are making far more noise than the WD drive in my other TivoHD. It sounds like lots of seek and scan noise. I had run the hddscan utility to set the AAM at 128, but could that not be set right? It sounds like the drive is storing data all over the place.

    Is this normal?

    Brad
     
  11. Feb 13, 2010 #4951 of 10284
    richsadams

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    Hard to say...you'd have to reconnect it to your PC to see what the AAM is set at. I've never used the HDDScan program so I don't know what it might show. I've always used the Hitachi Feature Tool v2.11 (must be that version). It shows the current settings, etc.

    A lot of activity might indicate that it's still indexing or doing some other background/housekeeping activity. Try setting each tuner to a channel that you don't receive (I use 900 and 9000). Note if the activity stops or continues.

    The drives I have aren't as quiet as the TiVo's OEM drive partly because the OEM's are 5400RPM w/two platters but they pretty much match the WD10EVCS I have in our TiVo HD...maybe slightly louder...and again I didn't adjust the AAM on the Hitachi drives.

    Out of curiosity, what temperature is the Hitachi drive showing in your TiVo HD when it's fully active?

    Let us know how things go.
     
  12. Feb 13, 2010 #4952 of 10284
    abeln2672

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    Just wanted to first THANK the creators/contributors of this thread and report that I just installed a 1TB SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ in my Tivo HD. I can't believe how easy it was just by following the guide:

    1) Shopped carefully for 1tb drives and settled on the Samsung because of a great deal on Newegg (came bundled with a dock for $76).

    2) Bought an additional SATA>USB adapter (I'm using a laptop and needed to have both the old and new drives connected during upgrade in order to transfer my recordings).

    3) Installed winMFS.

    4) Followed the guide here to remove old drive, connect both to the computer, copy everything over, and install the new drive. Plugged everything back in and, voila, working like a charm with 157 hours of HD recording time!

    Anyway, it's only been a few hours, but so far so good! Thanks again everyone...this thread is gold!
     
  13. Feb 13, 2010 #4953 of 10284
    bkdtv

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    Please keep us informed how that Samsung F3 works for you.

    Some older Samsung models (F1?) exhibited reliability issues with TiVos, but we haven't seen many reports on newer drives like the F3. That could be another alternative to the Hitachis and Seagates.
     
  14. Feb 13, 2010 #4954 of 10284
    travisc77

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    I just upgraded my S3's 250 GB stock, with a 1TB WD EVDS knowing I would have to do the wdidle3 to disable intellipark. Did the copy with winMFS, said it was successful.

    I figured I would test it in the S3 prior to working on the wdidle3. It seems to be stuck on "Welcome Powering Up" . It's been about 10 minutes and I'm a little worried.

    Also, I plan to do the wdidle3 from a PC with only an SATA Cd-Rom, that seems to be causing a problem for most, I made the Boot Cd as described, but when I boot to it it doesn't seem to have a driver for the CD.

    Can anybody coming or help with these two issues?
     
  15. Feb 13, 2010 #4955 of 10284
    whitepelican

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    Did you make sure you reconnected the power & SATA cables? I know it's a dumb mistake, but I've made it so many times that I thought it was worth mentioning.

    Did you disable AHCI in the BIOS for the CD-Rom drive? Once I did that it worked fine for me to use a SATA CD-Rom drive.
     
  16. Feb 13, 2010 #4956 of 10284
    travisc77

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    Yep I installed the SATA cables back properly. Even re-attached the original HDD and it seems to be working. Maybe the copy didn't work well?? Probably going to try again.

    As for the SATA, what is AHCI? I do not see that option in my BIOS...
     
  17. Feb 13, 2010 #4957 of 10284
    travisc77

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    Update-

    I went ahead and formatted the drive with WinMFS, then restored a backup. Knowing this would only preserve the settings but that's OK and quicker. But it's still stuck on powering up. I can put the old drive in and it works fine, watching TV within 5 minutes.

    Do I need to resolve the intellipark issue first? Could that be causing the issue? Really stumped here.... the drive is WD10EVDS maybe a bad drive?
     
  18. Feb 13, 2010 #4958 of 10284
    bkdtv

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    Yes. The Intellipark issue is almost certainly your problem.

    If the boot CD linked in the fact didn't work for you, you might try this one:

    We need someone to upload a pre-made CD image version to a site like mediafire.com.
     
  19. Feb 13, 2010 #4959 of 10284
    travisc77

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    Thanks for the info, that boot CD worked like a champ!

    That resolved my issues! Wow, and it even kept my recordings after MSF format! Those darn linux partitions rock!

    Many Thanks again!
     
  20. Feb 14, 2010 #4960 of 10284
    bkdtv

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    Would someone mind uploading this CD image to mediafire.com or sendspace.com?

    I just upgraded the last of my computers to Windows7 x64, and MAKEISO.BAT won't run under 64-bit Windows.
     

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