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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. cjv2

    cjv2 New Member

    Dec 15, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Ah. So I do not, in fact, need e-coffee. But since ThAbtO commented, I guess I'll go get some anyway. :D
  2. bjmurphy

    bjmurphy New Member

    Jan 16, 2010
    Hi all I have achieved an upgrade of my 160GB tivo with a 1TB wd10evds hdd.

    I dealt with the intellipark issue with wdidle3 setting it to 25500 milliseconds (wdidle3/s255) and it reboots perfectly.

    thanks to this site for all the tools and knowledge now I have 200 hours of HD and 400 hours of SD space.

    How do I get a screen shot from the tivo so I can post it for people to do?

    I have done it with pc's but not sure yet how to do it with the tivo...

    I think I may have done it while I did beta testing for the unit but have now forgotten.

    Also. These units in Australia retail for $700 PLUS $150 for the software to network it with your computer to stream movies/music etc, plus $300 for the external 1TB drive if you want it.

    Since I did beta testing the unit and software cost me nothing, so all it has cost me was $130 for the 1TB wd10evds hdd!!!

  3. CraigK

    CraigK (unspecified)

    Jun 9, 2006
    North of...
    Most people just take a picture of their TV screen with a digital camera.

    Congratulations on the upgrade. :up:
  4. yukit

    yukit New Member

    Jul 23, 2005
    I am using a Hitachi Deathstar 2TB (HD32000 IDK/7K) in HDXL.
    I did apply the AAM change. No clicking, it does not seem to be much louder than the original WD drive.
  5. chadcmac

    chadcmac New Member

    Dec 2, 2009
    I tried posting over at MFSLive.org, but no response, so I'll try here too...

    I am helping a friend upgrade his TiVo Series 3 from the original 250 GB to a 1.0 TB drive. I screwed up, but I gave the TiVo back to him before I realized that, so I can't work on it right now and I won't get a chance for a few more days. I want to make sure I am prepared when I do get that chance.

    In a nutshell: I used WinMFS and followed the instructions exactly in this FAQ, preserving setting and recordings. After putting the new drive in the TiVo and powering it up, I got the GSOD. It only lasted about 5-10 minutes, then the TiVo reset itself, and powered up fine. Except the TiVo does not recognize the upgraded size.

    There was a a thread about a similar sounding problem on this forum, and according to that there were two solutions that may work for me.

    One solution seemed to be using MFSLive instead of WinMFS, another
    solution seemed to be using a different SATA port on the mobo.

    I plan on trying a different SATA port, and hopefully it will work. If that doesn't, I guess I'll try MFSLive. In case either of those doesn't work, has anyone else encountered a similar problem and could suggest other possible fixes?

    My other question is this, can I just plug the 1.0 TB drive back into my computer and use WinMFS or MFSLive to expand the drive without having to redo the whole copy process again? If so, what commands would I use?

    If I do have to redo the copy process, do I have to clear/reformat the new drive first? If so, how should I do that?

  6. lex3001

    lex3001 New Member

    Feb 13, 2005
    I'm not an expert but I think you can use WinMFS and just use the Add option. I think that's what it does after you copy drives anyway in order to expand the size to use the drive space you have.

    After the whole process failed on one computer for me, I tried using another computer instead and everything worked great (using the exact same process -- go figure).
  7. whitepelican

    whitepelican New Member

    Feb 14, 2005
    Yes, you just need to do an "mfsadd", either in WinMFS or MFSLive.

    No, you don't need to format the hard drive in any way. MFSLive/WinMFS will wipe/reformat the drive when you do the copy.
  8. mrbeefhead

    mrbeefhead New Member

    Aug 13, 2004
    Two questions:

    1. Is anyone planning on using an 1.0 TB EADS drive to do an upgrade anytime soon? Only asking as I saw on slickdeals today that zipzoomfly has an amazing deal on them right now ($75 AR). If deals shouldn't be posted on here, let me know and I'll edit this post.

    2. I am about to replace my internal HDD with a 1TB drive. In addition, I want to be able to add the MX-1 external in the future (when I have the funds). Is there a way to prepare my internal drive for that during my upgrade or will I have to go through the upgrade process with both drives when the day comes that I'm ready to attach my MX-1?

    Thanks for the help!
  9. Gerhard

    Gerhard New Member

    Sep 29, 2002
    Has anyone tried taking a WD MyDVR Expander, removing the 1TB drive, and adding a 2TB WD drive to it?

    Possible, not possible, waste to time to try, etc.??

  10. Gerhard

    Gerhard New Member

    Sep 29, 2002

    I did a quick search and I noted that no one has mentioned the AV-GP WD15EVDS drives for use with upgrading a TivoHD. [in this thread]

    Has anyone had any success with that unit??

    I just picked up a TivoHD (already have three others, and this will replace one of the TivoS2s)... and I plan on using that drive to repalce the internal drive on the new TivoHD.

  11. pl1

    pl1 New Member

    Jan 17, 2007
    If you'll notice in the FAQ, I would have to presume that this drive would be included along with all EVDS drives.
  12. rocko

    rocko Cuckoo for TiVo

    Oct 29, 2002
    I guess I'm confused so ...

    According to the FAQs at mfslive.org you can only expand/upgrade a drive one time using WinMFS or MFSTools. But in the same breath it implies that you can do it multiples times:

    To save recordings and expand Single drive setup:

    Series 1 Standalone (2x)
    Series 1 Standalone UK (2x)
    Series 1 DTV (1x)
    Series 2 & Series 3 standalone & Dtv (1x)

    Using mfslive beta w/ restore -f option
    more than 10x depending on how big your drive is and what r value you use.

    WinMFS has the -f option built in, so "in theory" you can expand you expanded drive again and again.

    I have used the latest WinMFS to expand two already expanded drives to even larger drives with no issues. Note that I did not try to use a drive larger than 1 tb.

    I used WinMFS to copy and expand my original 160GB drive to a 750GB drive. I'd like to take the 750GB and preserve recordings on to a 1TB drive.

    I think the answer is no. Is it?

    Thanks in advance.
  13. watts

    watts New Member

    Jun 23, 2002
    I have been struggling with my 3rd HD Tivo upgrade. I now think that the external storage plug is bad on the TiVo itself. The two drives I am using are pre-intellipark dates. Just to be safe I used wdidle3 on them. Both drives can be formated and work as the internal single TiVo drive. The problem is that whenever I marry the 2 drives and plug it in, the system just hangs on the first screen and never even goes to the "just a few minutes more" screen. I am using the Sigg cord and Antec External. Just to be sure it was not a problem with those, I swapped the one I had been trying with one from one of the working upgrades. The antec external box and cord work just fine on the other upgrade and the newly swapped out box combination is displaying the same problem as before.

    So has anyone had this before? Is there anything I can try to do to fix it? I am still able to get the extended warrantee. I suppose I could pay for that, throw the original drive back in and send it in for repair/replacement.
  14. wackymann

    wackymann New Member

    Sep 22, 2006
    Boston Area
    I have an original S3. I went from 250 GB to 750 GB, and then from 750 GB to 1 TB. It worked fine.
  15. rocko

    rocko Cuckoo for TiVo

    Oct 29, 2002
    Saving recordings?
  16. bkdtv

    bkdtv New Member

    Jan 9, 2003
    DC Metro Area

    You can expand a previously expanded partition so long as your new drive is 1.1TB or smaller. If you want to expand beyond that (up to 1.26TB on TivoHD or 1.35TB on Series3), then you have to start with the original image.
  17. rocko

    rocko Cuckoo for TiVo

    Oct 29, 2002
    Then away we go ... see you all in about 6 hours. Thanks.

    EDIT: All done - looks good so far ...
  18. digason

    digason New Member

    Mar 15, 2008
    Has anybody found a way around this? I suspect that one of my drives is failing and would like to replace them both with a single large internal drive without losing any recordings. What are the technical differences in the marrying process that TiVo uses vs the process WinMFS uses? And are there any advantages to using WinMFS over using the mfslive linux CD? I'd prefer to not use Windows if I don't have to.

  19. mkomyluck

    mkomyluck New Member

    Jan 21, 2010

    So I was at my local traders village when I run across this uverse DVR box for sale for $30 so I offered the guy $15 for it and he accepted. When I took it home I promptly opened it to find to my amazement a WD5000AVVS-63ZWB0 <---Western Digital Hard Drive, this is one of the 500GB drives that come in the MY DVR EXPANDER. Last night I ordered a Rocket Fish eSATA hard drive enclosure for $18, according to UPS will arrive on Monday. For $33 500 GB external Drive...NICE!!!
  20. RV49er

    RV49er New Member

    Jul 11, 2005
    I bought a WD10EADS which was manufactured Nov 2009. I disabled intellipark and used Instantcakes to create an image. The Tivo works perfectly and does not have any soft reboot problems.

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