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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Jan 17, 2010 #4641 of 10248
    nessus

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    Well, that could certainly be the cause of the problem. If you don't tell Windows that you are going to be removing the drive, it won't necessarily write everything it was going to to the disk before you remove it.

    I didn't do anything special to make WinMFS work for me on Windows 7, other than right-clicking on it and chosing "Run as Administrator", rather than just double-clicking on it to run it.

    With a TiVo HD upgrade, I did end up with it sitting forever at "Just a few minutes more..." on the first attempt. Read above a post or two for how I ended up fixing that, if you think it might be apropos.

    |>ouglas
     
  2. Jan 17, 2010 #4642 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Thank goodness for (linux) partitions! :up:

    BTW, in the "old days" we used to strap dual HDD's together inside TiVo's with duct tape...and then progressed to "high tech" - zip ties! So only missing one screw is still a good day in TiVoLand. Enjoy! :)
     
  3. Jan 17, 2010 #4643 of 10248
    nessus

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    I guess I never did a dual-disk upgrade quite that long ago. I did do single-drive upgrades on quite a few 14-hour Series 1's that I had won from TiVo by writing contest essays for all my friends and family, and I eventually did dual-drive upgrades on some of them to bring them up to a few hundred hours, but I ordered special dual-disk mounting brackets from 9th Tee, I believe.

    |>ouglas
     
  4. Jan 17, 2010 #4644 of 10248
    jza80

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    Sure, the seller goes by the handle of dvr_dude. If you do a search for Tivo upgrade you will find his auctions. Does quite a business, looking at a constant stream of feedback.
     
  5. Jan 17, 2010 #4645 of 10248
    richsadams

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  6. Jan 17, 2010 #4646 of 10248
    richsadams

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    We used to dream of having dual-disk mounting brackets in those days. Why then we used to walk to school...in the snow...uphill...both ways... ;)
     
  7. Jan 18, 2010 #4647 of 10248
    bjmurphy

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    Winmalee...
    Hi Tivo bods

    will soon install a WD10evds in my HD aussie Tivo. Unfotunately it was made Nov 16th 2009 so will have to run wdidle3. I was going use my old dusty desktop I retreived from the garden shed but during the upgrade it decided to die on me. I wised I did not wipe my imaged backup drive to use as a spare external drive now... Will use my mother in laws desktop but have to arrange for a convenient time to do it. Will let you all know how it goes when done....
     
  8. Jan 18, 2010 #4648 of 10248
    qz3fwd

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    Upgrading S3 HDD-> 1/1.5TB 5900 RPM HDD Questions
    I bought a third S3 tonight on fleabay (brand new) and will be replacing the internal hard drive with either a 1Tb or 1.5TB HDD.
    I'd like to install the maximum capacity, so I'd like to put in a 1.5TB drive.

    Regardless, I prefer 7900 RPM drives on my PC's, but everyone seems to recommend the 5900's for HDD upgrades.
    Is this simply because of heat/noise issues?
    I will not buy WD drives anymore, so I'll be looking for either Seagate/Hitachi drives (In that order).

    Do these 5900 RPM drives slow down TivoDesktop transfers?
    I presume the process is CPU bound and not HDD bound on the tivo side,
    but I dont want to slow down my transfers which are slow enough as it is. (Faster is better)

    Recommendations for specific Seagate/Hitachi 1.5/7200 drives would be appreciated.
     
  9. Jan 18, 2010 #4649 of 10248
    bjmurphy

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    Winmalee...
    Hi all, last week I contacted WD support re my drive asking if it had intellipark and if I could have a copy of wdidle3. Here is their response:


    "Thank you for contacting Western Digital Customer Service and Support. My name is *******.

    This hard drive does have the Intellipark functionality. I apologize but the wdidle3 is not an application we have available for download.


    I hope that we have met your expectations today and that you are satisfied with our service. If you have any further questions, please reply to this email and we will be happy to assist you further."

    Sincerely,
    *********.
     
  10. Jan 18, 2010 #4650 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Here are my recommendations:

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=7712809#post7712809

    The Seagate Pipeline drives appear to be doing very well. However I would stay away from Seagate 1.5TB drives. I know a few people here have had success with them, but for the most part they have had a terrible track record. I've had personal experience with two that I had to return.

    FWIW, TiVo cannot take advantage of anything more than 5400RPM hard drives. (The OEM drives are 5400RPM w/2MB of cache). So anything beyond that isn't necessary. (Although there is an argument for improved performance for drives with something more than 2MB's of cache...which almost all HDD's have now.) TiVo transfers are bottlenecked by the processors, nothing to do w/HDD speeds. BTW, Series3's have the highest transfer rates. :up:

    Happy upgrading!
     
  11. Jan 18, 2010 #4651 of 10248
    richsadams

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    IIRC someone here said that wdidle3.exe is in fact on their website. :confused: Folks here (including yours truly) have had less than satisfactory results trying to get answers out of WD...if they answer at all. :mad: No need to block out the WD CSR's name. Just a wild guess...it's Raul, Paulo or some variation correct?

    BTW, happy upgrading and if you have time, can you post a pic or two of your System Information and maybe Now Playing screens when you're done? I'm curious to see what an Aussie TiVo screen looks like. When we lived in NZ we hacked a Series1 and it worked like a charm, but now that they have TiVo in AU and NZ, it would be nice to get a feel for what our southern cousins are seeing. TIA.
     
  12. Jan 18, 2010 #4652 of 10248
    uTivo

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    I see New Egg is running a sale on the Seagate Barracuda 750GB model ST3750528AS which is a la 7200.12 series. From reading this thread, the Seagate's can't be AAM modified, but the spec'd value of 2.7 bels for seek seems acceptable to most. Anybody using this HDD series in a S3? TIA!
     
  13. Jan 18, 2010 #4653 of 10248
    Scott NY

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    Hi all,

    I am a long time lurker, first time poster (in this thread) and very much appreciate all of the really valuable information in this forum.

    I'm a fairly technical power user who is just scared to death of screwing this up and losing my TiVo for more than a few hours. I am having a devil of a time pulling the trigger on this. I should also note that I am frugal and want to spend as little money to do this as possible.

    I have a 2 year old TiVoHD that I am looking to upgrade to a 1 TB drive. I keep hesitating on buying because either the price of a drive I am looking at goes up or an Intellipark issue is found in a recommended model or I become too scared I'll get a drive that'll fail or sweeps begins and our TiVo is too full to copy everything over in a reasonable timeframe without losing many hours of valuable TV watching time, etc. I would want to copy all settings and recordings, and because my wife and I watch so much TV, I'd want to do it in as short a timeframe as possible so we would have no significant downtime.

    I've been very carefully reading all of the posts here and I think I am fairly comfortable buying one of a few recommended drives, even if I have to tweak some settings on the drive.

    However, I am a Mac user with a Power Mac G5 (which I can't use for the upgrade if I have read everything right) and a 3+ year old MacBook Pro with almost no available disk space (though I have an external USB drive I can use for extra space if needed). I have a Mac Pro at work but my boss won't let me use it for this purpose (unless it's super easy and I can do it without him knowing - he does have vacation time coming up next month).

    So, can I use the MacBook Pro to do the upgrade? If so, what would I need? My guess is I would need an external SATA enclosure or converter that connects via USB or FireWire to the MacBook Pro, Boot Camp running Windows XP (got that already) and a bootable copy of that wdidle3 program that boots on Macs (I tried to get it from this post: http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showpost.php?p=7656451#post7656451 but I got this message: "This file is neither allocated to a Premium Account, or a Collector's Account, and can therefore only be downloaded 10 times. This limit is reached."). Then I would need to connect the old TiVo drive, copy everything over to my external USB drive, then connect the new drive (and tweak as needed) and copy everything back from my external USB drive, right?

    Will that setup even work on a MacBook Pro? It seems frighteningly convoluted, even for a power user (and I'd have to buy the adapter, too - remember I am chea... I mean frugal). Is there an easier way to do it other than finding new friends who might have a PC with two free SATA ports inside?

    Anyone on this forum live in Long Island who wants to help out one weekend for a few hours? :)

    Any help or advice would be very welcome. TIA.

    -Scott
     
  14. Jan 18, 2010 #4654 of 10248
    whitepelican

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    I'd just like to point out once again how disappointed I am in the ST31500541AS drive that I'm using. According to its specs, it is 2.5-2.6 bels, and yet it was much too loud for my bedroom, and it's even a little annoying in the family room. It is many, many times louder than the WD10EADS drive (which I can't hear at all) in my other S3.
     
  15. Jan 18, 2010 #4655 of 10248
    pl1

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    Do you hear any noise when it is idle (just recording the buffer?) Or only when it is recording? The reason I ask, is that I noticed that there is some pretty noticeable vibration going on with my Seagate Pipeline when both tuners are actively recording. It is not noticeable from accross the room, but I can actually feel the vibration on the side of the TiVo. I do not hear any head seeking noise like I've heard on many drives. So, is it possible you could add some rubber grommets to dull the vibration "if" that is in fact the noise you are noticing? Or do you think it is the head seeking?
     
  16. Jan 18, 2010 #4656 of 10248
    bkdtv

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    I updated the FAQ to reflect this.

    If someone could take a screenshot of this dialog box the next time they do a 1+TB upgrade, that would be helpful. I'll link it in the FAQ.
     
  17. Jan 18, 2010 #4657 of 10248
    drhankz

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    SHAME on you calling yourself a Power User and still using a G5 :thumbsdown:

    Give up the IDEA of upgrading your TiVo :thumbsdown:

    Borrow a PC from a Friend or at Work

    FYI - I am a MAC POWER USER - have been since DAY-1 :up:
     
  18. Jan 18, 2010 #4658 of 10248
    pl1

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    Anyone looking for a good deal on the Seagate Pipeline ST31000322CS

    Ebay item# 160394919147
     
  19. Jan 18, 2010 #4659 of 10248
    JonS

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    My WD10EVDS is still working fine - apparently I snuck in just before the drive was updated with the Intellipark (mis)feature.
     
  20. Jan 18, 2010 #4660 of 10248
    Scott NY

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    Since I use a Mac Pro all day at work and a MacBook Pro all night at home, there's no need to spend money (I did say I was frugal, right?) on buying a new tertiary computer that is essentially a media server. And I used to work for Apple, so I am allowed to consider myself a power user!

    Seriously, though. There would seem to be a lot of synergy between Mac users and TiVo users, so I am a little surprised there is so little Mac support for things like this.
     

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