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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Jan 11, 2010 #4561 of 10284
    cjv2

    cjv2 New Member

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    backyard, thanks for the cross-post from MFSLive on the alignment bit.

    I thought I would highlight the above item though. Certain models of the WD10EADS *do* have the soft reboot problem on a TivoHD (though presumably subject to correction by "fixing Intellipark.")

    I got one of those EADS drives for my TivoHD and had to take it back because I was running a laptop USB -> SATA adapter rather than a motherboard SATA plug, and consequently could not get the WD utility to see the drive and turn Intellipark off. In fact, I couldn't get the thing to boot, period. Stuck at "Welcome! Powering Up."

    There was a great deal of discussion about the EADS and apparent recent revisions to it by WD in this thread. It might be worth passing the discussion here on to Spike if you are so inclined.
     
  2. Jan 11, 2010 #4562 of 10284
    camm91

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    To use wdidle3 does my drive need to have a drive letter? At present my wd10evds is plugged in and recognised through bios etc, and, winmfs can see it. Do I need to mount it or whatever to give it a drive letter?

    I have the boot cd working, but, I am unsure what to do from there? It went to some wierd a: (I don't have an a:) and just entering the command didnt work.
     
  3. Jan 11, 2010 #4563 of 10284
    MPSAN

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    Once you get the A: prompt, try R: or S: and do a DIR and see if wdidle3.exe shows up. If so enter it to run the utility. This is NOT from within Windows and is from the boot cd that boots into DOS.
     
  4. Jan 11, 2010 #4564 of 10284
    camm91

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    Yes, I am using the boot cd that boots into dos.

    It gives a msg, Driver version v340
    Device Name: Banana
    No drives found, Aborting installation...

    Then goes to a:

    I just retried twice after your msg, tried drives a->z. I can get it to change between drives a and b, neither of which contain the program. no other drives are recognised.

    Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
     
  5. Jan 11, 2010 #4565 of 10284
    camm91

    camm91 New Member

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    Found this thread over here tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=370784&page=145 (removed the www so that I can post, wouldnt let me post links as < 5 posts) which the person had the same problem as me. I grabbed all the files from the ultimate bootable cd download and chucked the wdidle3 on it as well.

    This doesnt work as a boot cd now :/

    Does anyone see what is wrong? Can assist me?
     
  6. Jan 12, 2010 #4566 of 10284
    richsadams

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    Agree with everyone else...get your new TiVo set up and running before doing anything to it. I'd give it a solid 30 days before upgrading. Lucky drive order...let us know if it performs a menu restart.

    Happy upgrading!
     
  7. Jan 12, 2010 #4567 of 10284
    yukit

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    Thanks for posting this info. It is good to hear directly from spike regarding the 4k sector issue on EARS drives.

    I think there is a jumper on the drive to force the sector offset trick used on WinXP. I wonder if that would make the drive to work with Tivo FS, but it may fool WinMFS.

    BTW, I am using Hitachi 2TB (HD32000 IDK/7K) drive with an HDXL. Upgraded about a week ago, working very well so far.
     
  8. Jan 12, 2010 #4568 of 10284
    mellenfan

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    What drive should I buy to install in my Tivo HD? I have seen so many issues with this drive and that drive that I am not sure what to use!

    I have the cake software and can handle any iso buring to CD that is needed to apply DOS scripts, etc.

    Thanks!
     
  9. Jan 12, 2010 #4569 of 10284
    richsadams

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    My two or three cents:

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=7712809#post7712809

    If you have a PC and are comfortable with doing a little extra work, any of the Western Digital drives listed in the first post would be fine as well.

    Happy upgrading!
     
  10. Jan 12, 2010 #4570 of 10284
    drhankz

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    Hi Rich - I like your Seagate recommendation.

    If I were upgrading mine today - that is the one I would go with.

    KNOCK on wood my 1 TB Internal TiVo just reached its 2nd Birthday this month :up:
     
  11. Jan 12, 2010 #4571 of 10284
    wackymann

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    You got lucky - I ordered one from Amazon around the same time and it came with a manufacture date of Dec 7. Did you order directly from Amazon, or one of its affiliates? I ordered mine directly from Amazon so I could get their free 2-day shipping. There was a slightly cheaper option that was from one of their affiliates. Maybe they are shipping the older drives? If so, that would be good to know.
     
  12. Jan 12, 2010 #4572 of 10284
    bigd2008

    bigd2008 Warranty Void :)

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    Directly from Amazon. A friend also ordered the same drive direct from Amazon two days after I placed my order and he received the Oct 10th drive too. Did his TivoHD last night with no softboot (or other) problems.

    Despite the advice to first power on MY unit and wait a few weeks before upgrading, I didn't. *sigh* :( I used MFSLive v1.4. and had trouble mounting a NTFS file system to save the backup. I used a FAT32 formatted flash stick instead. Then, my backup file was reaching 2GB and failing. The uncompressed size was close to 3,330MB. I think it was backing up the 5 "get started" recordings. Then I remembered "Hey, people recommended not doing this..." and powered my unit on through the guided setup. Perm deleted the recordings which were about 1.3GB (according to record info). Tried it all over again and the uncompressed backup size was now 1390MB leaving me with a 527MB file (which fits on fat32) :D What gives? Anyone know why the image fresh from the box is larger? Seems like it is more than just recordings, but maybe that's all it is.
     
  13. Jan 12, 2010 #4573 of 10284
    MPSAN

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    Well, the DOS will see IDE drives, and since the driver will not install, I can just assume that your BIOS does not have the SATA drives configured for IDE. That means no RAID or other settings. After the wdidle3 run just change the BIOS back to what it was. Also, make sure your CD Drive is an IDE as well!
     
  14. Jan 13, 2010 #4574 of 10284
    adamwsh

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    I just purchased the Segate Pipeline ST31000533CS from ProVantage (cheapest price) on your recommendation. Hope it works well! I hope it comes soon. I'm tired of having only 20 hours of space!
     
  15. Jan 13, 2010 #4575 of 10284
    whitepelican

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    Good luck. I hope for your sake it is a lot less noisy than the Seagate ST31500541AS drive that I have.
     
  16. Jan 13, 2010 #4576 of 10284
    moxie1617

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    I haven't looked at the specs in over a year but the CS drives had been a lot quieter than the AS and NS series. I have both in Antec cases, the CS for the Tivo and the AS for backups. Night and day difference.
     
  17. Jan 13, 2010 #4577 of 10284
    jeffw_00

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    I ordered from Amazon 3 weeks ago and got a 10/15 EVDS drive. It probably matters, in part, which warehouse they ship from. If you can do the wdidle thing it doesn't matter though.
     
  18. Jan 13, 2010 #4578 of 10284
    adamwsh

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    Well, it is a 7 out of 10 (10 being best) on the noise level chart at the top of this thread. Also, even the manufacturer claims it is meant for DVR use with low noise, high operating temp, etc.

    I'll post my results when I'm done.
     
  19. Jan 13, 2010 #4579 of 10284
    pl1

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    I just bought one of the Seagates myself off of Ebay for $85 shipped. We'll see how the sound is. They are designed for DVRs with a 3 year warranty.

    Seagate Pipeline HD .2 1TB 1 TB SATA ST31000322CS
     
  20. Jan 13, 2010 #4580 of 10284
    pl1

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    One reason I was hesitant about buying the Seagate was that there are no noise level adjustments that can be made. The reason I'm OK with it if it is a little noisy is that it is in my livingroom. The old Maxtor drives I used to use were terribly loud during head seeks. The WD drives are virtually silent.
     

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