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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Jan 9, 2010 #4501 of 10248
    dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    Does Windows come up after rebooting after connecting the SATA drives?
    If not, perhaps you disconnected your boot drive?

    Winmfs is started the normal way. What happens if you double click on winmfs.exe either on your desktop or in windows explorer? You did extract winmfs.exe from the zip, correct?
     
  2. Jan 9, 2010 #4502 of 10248
    wackymann

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    I am having a very hard time turning off this stupid intellipark feature. I have 2 relatively new computers, so I thought at least one of them would do the job.

    The first computer is a new HP Windows 7 (64-bit) desktop. It boots into the wdidle3 CD just fine, but when I run the command wdidle3 /D, it just gives me a message that says it is set to 6300 msec - not disabled. The BIOS says the SATA controller is in IDE mode as instructed, so I'm not sure what is wrong...

    Anyways, when that failed, I figured I'd try our Dell PC running 64-bit Vista. That PC would NOT boot into the CD no matter I did. I even removed the Windows hard disk, at which point it went into an endless loop - continuously starting to boot into the CD, but giving up and trying again. I even re-burned the disk on this PC thinking that maybe it couldn't read the CD I had burned on the other machine, but that didn't change anything. And actually - I'm not even sure this computer could do it even if I could boot it into the CD, because the SATA controller only has 2 settings - AHCI and RAID. There is no EIDE compatibility mode as far as I can tell.

    So now I have this $100 disk that I can't really use. Any recommendations on what i should try next?
     
  3. Jan 9, 2010 #4503 of 10248
    waiting485

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    If it is not disabling the intellipark than try setting value to max by using following

    wdidle3 /S255

    This should resolve the softboot issue.
     
  4. Jan 9, 2010 #4504 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Hi Jason. I've used XP to upgrade many drives with winMFS so that shouldn't be a problem. (Be sure to disable any virus scan software that's running).

    It sounds like you want to preserve your settings and recordings and plan on following the instructions from Section V, #20b correct? So are you having trouble unzipping winMFS or opening it or...??? Per dlfl, when you say "stuck", you'll need to describe exactly what you're doing and seeing as clearly as possible.
     
  5. Jan 9, 2010 #4505 of 10248
    jagsgo

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    Hi thanks for responding. Well the situation is that I've unzipped winmfs and its on my desktop. Its from here where I'm stuck.

    "Shut down Windows, turn off your computer, and connect the original TiVo drive and your new replacement SATA drive. Do not disconnect your Windows boot drive."

    "You can open your computer and connect both with SATA cables, or you can connect them externally using a pair of SATA->USB adapters or a dual drive dock. Both drives should be connected to your PC at the same time."

    here is where I'm not sure what to do. Can I not run the program from my desktop in windows XP? If not I'm not sure what to do and how to connect the drives correctly. I bought a sata/IDE to usb 2.0 adapter for this switch. I hope I bought the correct cables I needed.

    I don't understand what "disconnecting your boot drive means." sorry..lol
     
  6. Jan 9, 2010 #4506 of 10248
    whitepelican

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    Basically, if you are going to do a drive to drive copy and preserve your Tivo recordings, you need to have 3 hard drives all connected at the same time: 1) Your original PC drive w/ Windows 2) Your "old" Tivo drive 3) Your new Tivo drive. As long as all three of those drives are connected properly, you should be able to just click on "winmfs.exe" and then do a drive to drive copy in WinMFS.
     
  7. Jan 9, 2010 #4507 of 10248
    jagsgo

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    right ok I totally understand. I believe I do have all three connected with the usb adapter that I'm using. Does it matter that I'm using a laptop?
     
  8. Jan 9, 2010 #4508 of 10248
    MPSAN

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    ...and do not forget to turn off your AV software! If your original TiVo drive is able to go into the TiVo again, it would have saved time if you removed the deleted shows so they would not copy as well. Just a time saver though.
     
  9. Jan 9, 2010 #4509 of 10248
    jagsgo

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    yes I did that. Now do I restart the computer after I connect the cables? or turn off the computer and then connect the cables.

    also what do they mean by this: If using Windows Vista, you'll want to launch WinMFS by right-clicking on WinMFS.exe and selecting "Run as Administrator.

    Can I run the program run in normal windows desktop or do I need to do something else..
     
  10. Jan 9, 2010 #4510 of 10248
    MPSAN

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    You can just connect the drives via the USB adapter. I believe you are using a laptop. If Winmfs does not see them, you can power off, and then reboot. If you use XP, as I do, I did not have to run as admin, and will run as a normal windows app.
     
  11. Jan 9, 2010 #4511 of 10248
    jagsgo

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    Thanks guys it looks like the transfer between the two tivo drives went through..Only thing is when I tried to expand the drive by clicking yes, it gave me an error message. And whenever I try to supersize the drive it gives me an message that says: "GUI Tools to backup restore expand fix TiVo Hard drives has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience."

    then it proceeds to close and shut down the program without me doing anything to it! Is this normal?
     
  12. Jan 9, 2010 #4512 of 10248
    jagsgo

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    Also I have an WD10EADS that's manufacture date is Oct 23, 2009...do you guys think I will need to do the intellipack feature thing...I haven't installed the new drive yet. I will check it by restarting the tivo through the messages and settings route.
     
  13. Jan 9, 2010 #4513 of 10248
    bkdtv

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    Most likely, yes.

    It is the WD10EVDS drives that were modified with Intellipark in November. All the other drivers were modified in September or October.
     
  14. Jan 9, 2010 #4514 of 10248
    jza80

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    Looking to find a good 1TB drive, Fry's is offering this Hitachi drive for $69 on special: Hitachi Deskstar 1TB HD31000IDK / 7K1000 ...this seems to mostly match up with the HD31000 drive listed in the recommended drive list, but there are some extra characters in the product model number. Anyone know if this is the same as the HD31000 drive that is recommended. And I assume this drive will need to be reset to the low noise setting, correct?

    Thanks
     
  15. Jan 10, 2010 #4515 of 10248
    richsadams

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    I can't guarantee that it's the same drive as the one recommended on the list. (The one on the list needs additional model info.) However in the past 60 days I've purchased three of the Hitachi 1TB HD HD31000IDK / 7K1000 hard drives and so far I am very impressed. I purchased one from Fry's as a matter of fact and two from Amazon. I have two in a NAS RAID configuration and am using one as an external hard drive for a Mac Mini. They run 10 degrees (centigrade) cooler than a year-old 1TB Hitachi drive I had and are surprisingly quiet for 7200 RPM drives - equal to most 5400 RPM's that I've used. I did not adjust the AAM so I'm guessing they could even be quieter. I actually wouldn't hesitate using them in either of our TiVo's should something happen to the WD drives they have currrently.
     
  16. Jan 10, 2010 #4516 of 10248
    richsadams

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    No, that's not normal...and I'm not sure what would cause it. If someone else here doesn't chime in quickly I'd post on Spike's MFSLive web site forum. He created winMFS and can probably help you out:

    www.mfslive.org/forums/
     
  17. Jan 10, 2010 #4517 of 10248
    jagsgo

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    well it looks like I was able to transfer the settings and recordings to the new WD10EADS drive. Now I can't figure out how to disable the Intellipark feature.

    can anyone help me out?

    for step 2: "Connect the affected WD drive to any available SATA connector on your motherboard. Ensure that in BIOS hard drives are set to EIDE Compatible mode and not AHCI or RAID. This is needed so bootable DOS CD can detect the drive."

    does this mean that I have to open up my laptop and connect the WD10EADS hard drive to my motherboard? Also how do I go BIOS? is this like MS DOS? and how do I get to this?

    thanks,

    jason
     
  18. Jan 10, 2010 #4518 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Hi Jason, no problem. I'm afraid I can't help you with disabling the Intellipark "feature". I've never used a laptop for an upgrade...although it obviously works. Plus I've never used the program to disable Intellipark. Hopefully someone will chime in.

    It seems like someone used a laptop to disable Intellipark so you might want to scroll back a ways. I don't think they opened it up though, so maybe there's a work around such as using a SATA to USB adapter.

    Although I think the manufacture date you mentioned would indicate that Intellipark is active, it might not be. There's only one way to find out. You could put the drive in TiVo and confirm that everything works. Then you could try doing a soft reboot.

    1. Go to TiVo Central
    2. Select Messages & Settings
    3. Select Restart or Reset System
    4. Select Restart the TiVo DVR
    5. Press Thumbs Down three times
    6. Press Enter

    If it doesn't hang on the "Welcome" screen you should be good to go. If it does you can power cycle it (pull the plug, wait ten seconds and plug it back in) and it should start up normally.

    Best of luck and let us know how it goes.
     
  19. Jan 10, 2010 #4519 of 10248
    kookmyers

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    I just completed my expansion to a new WD10EVDS that i purchased. The drive was manufactured in December. I ran wdidle3 and was unable to disable the drive so i set it to max as mentioned above. It seems to be working. A big thanks to everyone who has contributed to this forum.
     
  20. Jan 10, 2010 #4520 of 10248
    jza80

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    Thanks. What I am finding is that the drives listed with the lower noise levels are difficult to find online. I guess I will pick up the Hitachi and try it out. The worst thing that will happen is that it doesn't work and I will use it for something else...too bad the WD drives specifically made for DVR are discontinued.
     

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