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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Dec 27, 2009 #4401 of 10248
    cjv2

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    If you include the Intellipark bit, I would suggest inclusion of a note that you won't be able to disable it by way of USB -> SATA adapter, barring some pretty damn fancy footwork. And so far as I can tell, the (Windows-based) HDDScan software referenced by doctord and I is no help in doing so despite the fact that its interface would lead you to believe otherwise (I tried with the EADS I had).
     
  2. Dec 28, 2009 #4402 of 10248
    yukit

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    Anyone tried to disable Intellipark with hdparm -B command?
    I don't remember if hdparm on the mfs CD supported this option, but a recent linux LiveCD should. I used hdparm to set AAM option.

    Maybe -B 254 or -B 255 would work. Can anyone confirm?
     
  3. Dec 28, 2009 #4403 of 10248
    jlib

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    If it did it would be volatile. So, the TiVo would have to execute it on each bootup.
     
  4. Dec 28, 2009 #4404 of 10248
    jlib

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    There really aren't very many drives left on the list with the WD drives removed. Having them on there with the color coding I think is a good idea if only so that all the best deals can be considered since there really is nothing else wrong with them. But the way it is now with the explanation of why they are excluded is also fine since the users for whom disabling the Intellipark feature in the firmware would not be an issue will have all the information needed. Maybe simplest is best? Your call...
     
  5. Dec 28, 2009 #4405 of 10248
    dswallow

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    Better to list the drive models and explain specific issues than to not list them and leave it to the imagination of the reader as to their compatibility.
     
  6. Dec 28, 2009 #4406 of 10248
    lew

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    There are a number of Hitachi and Segate drives listed. Companies like Maxtor no longer exist.

    The only solution seems to be using a DOS based utility which won't work with many of the USB-SATA adapters many upgraders use. I think the WD green drives should be dropped from the list, at least until WD releases a windows or linux utility.

    Seagate and Hitatchi drives are available from internet vendors.
     
  7. Dec 28, 2009 #4407 of 10248
    mrbeefhead

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    From this thread I have learned that Intellipark affects soft-boots. Two questions:

    1) Does anyone know if Intellipark could contribute to picture freezing? I have the EADS and am experiencing pretty frequent freezes.

    2) When wdidle3 is used on a drive that has been servicing a TiVo HD, are all recordings lost?
     
  8. Dec 28, 2009 #4408 of 10248
    Arcady

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    Hello all,

    I upgraded my original Series3 more than 3 years ago with a 500GB drive. I'd like to upgrade to a 1.5TB drive, but the instructions state that I must start with the original 250GB drive. Is there any way for me to preserve my settings and move to the 1.5TB drive? (I don't need to keep the recordings.) I didn't see this specific issue mentioned in the FAQ.

    Thanks
     
  9. Dec 28, 2009 #4409 of 10248
    whitepelican

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    #1 - don't know
    #2 - Your recordings are not lost when you run wdidle3.
     
  10. Dec 28, 2009 #4410 of 10248
    cjv2

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    I can't see why you have to go back to the original 250GB drive if you are using something like WinMFS to do the job. Data is data. Can someone confirm/deny?

    As to the 1.5TB thing, there are some notes in the FAQ about max capacity you may want to read. I don't think you'll get the full 1.5TB.
     
  11. Dec 28, 2009 #4411 of 10248
    raianoat

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    Can I disable the Intellipark feature on the drive that I've already restored to? Or, do I need to disable this feature and perform the restore again?
     
  12. Dec 28, 2009 #4412 of 10248
    cjv2

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    I don't think there is any interaction between disabling Intellipark and the user-stored data on the drive. The Intellipark bit is firmware-controlled drive management, I believe. So yeah, you should be able to disable it without needing a restore.

    Best practice is always to have a backup, of course (***standard IT disclaimer... heh***)
     
  13. Dec 28, 2009 #4413 of 10248
    raianoat

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    Thanks. I'll post back later tonight or early tomorrow with whether or not this fix works for me...
     
  14. Dec 28, 2009 #4414 of 10248
    yukit

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    WD10EARS drives are now available on Newegg. Interestingly, the drive has a new formatting feature to set the physical sector to 4k. I would think you don't want that for a Tivo drive.

    Who wants to be the first to use this drive for an upgrade ;)
     
  15. Dec 28, 2009 #4415 of 10248
    jlib

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    I can confirm that WinMFS will not work if you originally used MFS Live CD (MFS Tools) to do the original upgrade (you will have run out of partitions needed for the second upgrade). I do not have any experience with multiple upgrades with WinMFS, though. The other info is correct regarding limitations on actual usable size when using WinMFS on different models of TiVo. It is all in the FAQ first post as you mentioned.
     
  16. Dec 28, 2009 #4416 of 10248
    cjv2

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    Oh duh, I didn't think about the partition count thing... Mucho thanks for the detail.

    For what it's worth, when I used WinMFS to do my upgrade (I did not use MFSLive) I wound up with a 14th and 15th partition being added. So, with 2 partitions being added per expansion just like with MFSLive, that would imply that WinMFSAdd + WinMFSAdd = fail just as MFSAdd + WinMFSAdd = fail, as the high supported-partition count is apparently 16.

    My bad.
     
  17. Dec 28, 2009 #4417 of 10248
    fpage77

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    My old computer only has IDE ports built into it. I bought a SATA PCI adapter SIL3512 (says it also does raid) and put in my computer and hooked up my Western Digital AV-GP drive. I booted to disc the other guy posted but it isn't finding the drive. Any ideas??????????
     
  18. Dec 28, 2009 #4418 of 10248
    raianoat

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    I ran wdidle3 against my drive and now everything is working! I really appreciate all the help I received on this thread (especially bkdtv for starting the FAQ). I'll be sure to blog about it in the near future.
     
  19. Dec 28, 2009 #4419 of 10248
    cr33p

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    I just spent the past 4 hours fighting with my pc and this darn wdidle3 program, I FINALLY got it to boot and recognize my cdrom, it hated the SATA dvd burner drive. Anyways, I have a recertified WD10EAVS I was told this was a 1 tb drive out of a Phantom enclosure, I recieved it as a RMA from WD. Anyways the "/D" switch refuses to work, I was only able to reduce the timer down to 100 milliseconds, not sure if it is because of this particular drive or what. Also I read around and there is a v1.0 and a v1.3 of this wdidle3 program floating around, I dint have enough time to check out the newer version to see if it would remidy my problems .
     
  20. Dec 28, 2009 #4420 of 10248
    fpage77

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    I'm not sure but think the reason you had trouble is the drive doesn't have the Intelipark feature. I checked the spec sheet for the WD10EAVS and it doesn't mention that it has that feature. I don't know maybe it has a older version of that feature that doesn't work with /d command?!?!? I'm still struggling to get a old computer that didn't have SATA to recognize the drive in dos. I tried a SATA pci card which was a bust so next I'm going to try and SATA to IDE adapter.

    http://www.wdc.com/en/library/sata/2879-701229.pdf?wdc_lang=en
     

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