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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Dec 20, 2009 #4341 of 10248
    innocentfreak

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    I know the person who posts the twitter feed for Tivoblog was also having issues with a new EVDS drive. I told them to post here, but I think they only posted over at MFSlive. They did say they got an error though during the process.
     
  2. Dec 20, 2009 #4342 of 10248
    watts

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    I did not disable my antivirus. I am working on turning that off now. I did do a trucated backup to my harddrive, but I used the original drive for the upgrade. Steps 13-22 for a new internal drive and an external drive. I was using the orig drive so after doing mfsadd I shut down the computer and did not do the boot from CD to run the code for mfs add.

    the build date is Oct 7th and 16th 2009. I have 4 of the drives, I was hoping to upgrade my other 2 HD tivo's this weekend.
     
  3. Dec 20, 2009 #4343 of 10248
    bkdtv

    bkdtv New Member

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    I suggest you take the external drive out of the equation and follow these instructions (FAQ #19A).

    Some antivirus/security software can't be completely disabled, so you may want to try the backup and restore in Windows safe mode, if you're familiar with that.
     
  4. Dec 21, 2009 #4344 of 10248
    watts

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    I completely uninstalled my anti virus on that computer. It had expired anyway. Will get new one before using internet. I will try the single drive instuctions tonight when I get home. Since I have 4 drives of this type to test with, hopefully I can figure out the problem. I will let you know how it goes.
     
  5. Dec 21, 2009 #4345 of 10248
    watts

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    ok I could not resist trying it out before work. Going to be late. Using the instructions to backup from truncated copy and having anti virus off made for a good combination. tivo is working. Now off to work. I can figure out the second drive later today. Thanks for the sugestion, not sure which change was the winner, but much happier now.
     
  6. Dec 21, 2009 #4346 of 10248
    bkdtv

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    Good to hear that resolved the problem.

    The problem affects a number of Western Digital "Green" drives, including the EADS. The WD10EVDS is not affected, so that is the drive to buy right now.
     
  7. Dec 21, 2009 #4347 of 10248
    yukit

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    Anyone successfully upgrade an HD XL with a 2TB internal green drive recently?

    I am planning to upgrade my XL to 2TB in the next 2 weeks. I am a bit concerned with the IntelliPark issue (soft boot hang) reported here with the recent stock 1TB green drives. I hope the 2TB green drives do not have the same issue.

    I suppose I can use a black drive or Seagate. Anyone try Hitachi or Samsung 2TB drives for the upgrade?
     
  8. Dec 21, 2009 #4348 of 10248
    drey

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    I've done 2TB quite successfully on XL, although WD Green drives will have the IntelliPark issue.

    Contact me via PM if you want 2TB without "soft-reboot" issue which is guaranteed to work in XL.
     
  9. Dec 21, 2009 #4349 of 10248
    lrhorer

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    Oh, then I guess you hadn't heard? The WDxxEARS drives can only handle audio. If you want to use similar drives in a DVR, you'll need to wait for the upcoming WDxxEYES drives. :D:D:D
     
  10. Dec 21, 2009 #4350 of 10248
    raianoat

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    I haven't been very successful with upgrading the drive in my S3 TiVo to a 1TB WD (WD10EVDS). I posted over at the MFSLive forum (http://mfslive.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1407) however, I thought I'd post here since there seems to be more people on TiVoCommunity.

    Originally I tried to setup my new drive using the live cd method (MFSLive). After performing the backup/restore my S3 would not boot. Just tonight I went ahead and performed a backup using WinMFS. Unfortunately I don't have a Windows box so I ended up using VMWare fusion on my Mac. The backup seemed to have worked fine however, when I turn on my TiVo it is stuck on boot just like it was when I ran the live cd method. Here's a copy of my MFSInfo output from the new drive. Any help would be greatly appreciated...

     
  11. Dec 21, 2009 #4351 of 10248
    raianoat

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    I'm pretty sure that my error had to do with a driver issue and my sata controller.
     
  12. Dec 22, 2009 #4352 of 10248
    richsadams

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    HA! Double HA! ROFLMAO! :eek: :D Phew! I needed that. :up: :)
     
  13. Dec 22, 2009 #4353 of 10248
    MPSAN

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    Actually this was an idea that WD created that would make you buy 2 drives. You need BOTH EAR and EYE to get audio/video. It is set up in kind of a new RAID array called Redundant Array of Incompatible Drives. It will, no doubt, require a Firmware upgrade. We may have to wait for the TiVo Series 4 to get the full effect. Any problems will require the help of an Eyes, Ears, Nose, and Throat specialist, and will NOT be covered by Medicare!
     
  14. Dec 23, 2009 #4354 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Ah, I see what you're saying and I hear what you mean. :cool:
     
  15. Dec 23, 2009 #4355 of 10248
    VinceA

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    What the SOAK recommend for someone that has a nice 1TB WD drive that tests out hardware wise dandy (ran the full scan from the WD utilities) but needs a new TiVoHD image on it? I wiped the drive (wrote all zeroes to it using the WD utils) since it was stuck in a Kickstart 57 loop for over a day.

    Can't seem to use InstantCake since that seems to not work on PCs with all SATA drives (HD & CD).

    Would love to get TiVoHD back to functional before the holiday hits full force. I've got a few hours today but not many after that...
     
  16. Dec 23, 2009 #4356 of 10248
    watts

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    I have 2 HD TiVo's I am upgrading. 1 has no issues, the other I cannot get to work. It will not recognize the external drive. I suspect a bad hard drive and want to run WD diagnostics on both the WD10EVDS 1TB. My problem now is that I cannot get the WD data lifeguard diagnostics for windows (DLGDIAG for windows) to see the drives. I have a SATA to USB connection that did not work, so I open up the computer and directly plugged in the SATA connection (and power) on both drives. Neither one is recognized. Is this because they are setup with tivo software? What do I need to do to get the diagnostics to recognize the drives so I can run the software on them.
     
  17. Dec 23, 2009 #4357 of 10248
    bkdtv

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    I assume you are pairing internal and external drives with WinMFS? It's possible one drive is simply DOA. Some percentage of all drives are DOA.

    I'm not sure why DLDIAG does not see the drive. It should see both drives so long you've launched the app with administrative privileges (right-click, run as administrator).
     
  18. Dec 23, 2009 #4358 of 10248
    raianoat

    raianoat TiVoBlog.com

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    I can't seem to get my WD10EVDS drive to work. I posted my drive info over at MFSLive.org forum but I'd thought I'd post it here incase somebody can help me...

    Date: 29 Nov 2009
    Mdl: WD10EVDS-63U8B0
    dcm: HARCNV2MHB
    r/n: 701640
    green board rev number: 2060-701640-001 REV A
     
  19. Dec 23, 2009 #4359 of 10248
    bkdtv

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    That's the newest revision I've seen. WD10EVDS drives produced through late October are known to work, but it's possible that Western Digital adjusted the Intellipark parameters at some point in November to make it incompatible.

    Did you follow the upgrade instructions (FAQ #19A) in the first post for the truncated backup and restore, with all third-party antivirus and security software disabled?

    Edit: I see you don't have access to Windows and are using Mfslive. In that case, you might try a backup and restore without your recordings to see how that goes.
     
  20. Dec 23, 2009 #4360 of 10248
    waiting485

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    I bought the same drive from CDW few days ago, have not installed it yet in my Tivo HD, (don't have the SATA cables and they are hard to find in a retail store ). I will be installing the disk this saturday, will let you know how it goes.

    Here is my product detail.
    Date: 24 Nov 2009
    MDL: WD10EVDS - 63U8B0
    DCM: DARCNV2MAB
    R/N: 701640
    Green Board Rev Number : I could not locate this number.

    will be using WinMfs on a windows XP machine.
     

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