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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Dec 15, 2009 #4301 of 10316
    MPSAN

    MPSAN Active Member

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    I believe that the Windows version of the WD software WILL run with the SATA===>USB converter. Are you running XP?

    Just killing time here as my new THD is on its 8th hour of updates and guide data!
     
  2. Dec 15, 2009 #4302 of 10316
    cjv2

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    Yep, running XP. There's a Windows version that can be used to disable Intellipark? Where? Do tell!!!
     
  3. Dec 15, 2009 #4303 of 10316
    dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    I think he meant the windows version of the WD Diagnostics and I can confirm it will run with a USB-SATA adapter, although 2 or 3 times slower than a SATA port. The extended test took almost 10 hrs on my PC for 1 TB.

    I'm not aware of a Windows version of the software that fixes the soft-reboot problem.
     
  4. Dec 15, 2009 #4304 of 10316
    cjv2

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    Got it. Baseline diags were fine. Extended diags are chugging away. Tune in tomorrow, I guess...
     
  5. Dec 16, 2009 #4305 of 10316
    MPSAN

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    I did mean the WD diags and not wdidle3.
     
  6. Dec 16, 2009 #4306 of 10316
    richsadams

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    Much appreciated! :up:
     
  7. Dec 16, 2009 #4307 of 10316
    lns4667

    lns4667 Lionel

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    Just thought I would give my .02 worth on the wd10eads. After reading this thread a few times through I decided I could live with the soft reboot problem on this drive, given the fact I could get it for $60. I also did some research on this model while waiting on the drive in the mail. Here is what I found.

    WD10eads-00m2b0 (2-platters) firmware rev 1.00a01
    WD10eads-00l5b1 (3-platters) firmware rev 1.01a01

    When my hdd arrived it was the (3-platter) version mentioned above with a manufacture date of 10/19/09 Thailand. So I followed the procedure to replace my internal drive and everything booted normal on initial setup showing 157 hd hours of recording space. Now time for soft reboot. With fingers crossed I waited and ta-da no hang-up. I did have wdidle.exe ready in case I needed it but the WD10eads-00l5b1 worked perfect right out of the box.
     
  8. Dec 16, 2009 #4308 of 10316
    cjv2

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    Interesting. This post at MFSLive.org suggests that the firmware rev in my HD (and the first HD in your list of 2) may be at issue. I wonder if you lucked out by getting the second one :)
     
  9. Dec 16, 2009 #4309 of 10316
    ADG

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    I've noticed a small, odd change since replacing the HD the other day. I have two s3's in the same cabinet. The one with the new hd is on a shelf directly above the other, and now the time display is noticeably dimmer than it was before (and thus not as bright as the s3 below it). I've checked the setting to make sure it is on "bright". I'm certain the time on both units displayed at the same level of brightness prior to the hd change. It's not a big deal, it's just odd.
     
  10. Dec 16, 2009 #4310 of 10316
    brooster

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    I attached the external fantom 1TB drive about a month ago. It was working fine until I pulled out the Tivo to attach an optical cord. I then noticed on the front of the series 3 "External drive missing". When I moved the Tivo the plug for the external drive came loose. I was recording at the time. I have tried to unplug the Tivo, push the external drive plug back into the Tivo and plug the Tivo back in about a dozen times. I keep getting the "External drive missing" screen.
    ??
     
  11. Dec 16, 2009 #4311 of 10316
    cjv2

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    Well, 12 hours into extended diags things were fine, but based on all the reading I'm pretty much out of options here, so the WD10EADS-65M2B0 is going back to the store and I'm going to order up a WD10EVDS from Amazon. I think it's official at this point that in its current incarnation, this drive doesn't like the TivoHD.

    Anybody want further technical details about this soon-to-be-returned HD before I take it back?
     
  12. Dec 16, 2009 #4312 of 10316
    richsadams

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    Ouch! Sorry to hear about that. Try following these steps:

    1. Power off TiVo by disconnecting the AC power cord.
    2. Turn off the eSATA drive.
    3. Disconnect the AC adapter cord and eSATA cable from the eSATA drive.
    4. Disconnect the eSATA cable from TiVo.
    5. Reverse the eSATA cable connections between TiVo and the eSATA drive.
    6. Re-connect one end of the eSATA cable to the eSATA drive and the other end to TiVo.
    7. Connect the AC power cord to the eSATA drive and the other end to the electrical outlet.
    8. Turn the eSATA drive back on.
    9. Wait 10 to 15 seconds for the eSATA drive to fully spin up.
    10. Power on TiVo by reattaching the AC power cord.

    It's a little more complicated than the initial steps to get things going and a couple of steps are precautionary but by following those steps in that exact order others have had success getting their eSATA drive and TiVo talking to each other once again.

    If that doesn't resolve it there may have been data corruption since it was recording when it became disconnected. If that's the case there's not much you can do except to divorce the drive:

    1. Power off TiVo by disconnecting the AC power cord.
    2. Turn off the eSATA drive.
    3. Disconnect the AC adapter cord and eSATA cable from the eSATA drive.
    4. Disconnect the eSATA cable from TiVo.
    5. Power on TiVo by reattaching the AC power cord.
    6. Follow the on-screen instructions to permanently divorce the eSATA drive.

    Once you've divorced it you should be able to reconnect it following steps 6 through 10 in the first set of instructions. TiVo will automatically reformat the drive for use again. Unfortunately all of the recordings made since the eSATA drive was connected will probably be lost.

    Hope that helps and best of luck!
     
  13. Dec 16, 2009 #4313 of 10316
    richsadams

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    That's great info and pretty much in line with what we've seen so far. The 3 platter versions continue to work but the 2 platter models are problematic (and obviously the firmware would be different on each). It's a crap shoot as to which one you'll get when you order it though, so it's still best to avoid them.
     
  14. Dec 16, 2009 #4314 of 10316
    richsadams

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    That is odd. Coincidental? Although a larger drive can draw more power it isn't like plugging in an electric razor in a small town and dimming the lights on Main Street. I guess I'd have to swap out the original and 1TB drives in our Series3 to see if the same thing happens. But I think I'll save that for another day...perhaps when the lawn needs mowing next summer. ;) Maybe someone else has had the same experience?
     
  15. Dec 16, 2009 #4315 of 10316
    brooster

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    It Worked!! I only had to do the first part.
    Thanks Rich,

    bruce
     
  16. Dec 16, 2009 #4316 of 10316
    ADG

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    Yeah, well - as I said, not a big deal. And yes, I suppose it could just be a coincidence -though I'm not a big believer in coincidence. ;)
     
  17. Dec 16, 2009 #4317 of 10316
    richsadams

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    Excellent. Enjoy!
     
  18. Dec 16, 2009 #4318 of 10316
    snowser

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    I just got a WD10EADS-00m2b0 working in external setup on a TivoHD. Tried it many different ways. I'm not sure if the setup order did it but it powers up clean every time with 180 hours of HD capacity. First disabled Intellipark on external drive. Deleted external drive format in winfms. Attached external drive to Tivo and powered up. Tivo powered up clean but external storage drive came up as unsupported. Hooked up drives to computer and selected drives in winmfs. Selected mfsadd. Installed original drive and hooked up and powered external drive. Powered up Tivo. So far so good.
     
  19. Dec 16, 2009 #4319 of 10316
    richsadams

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    Welcome to the forum and thanks for the info. :up: AFAIK to date no one has reported any issues with using almost any hard drive externally. It's only when certain hard drives are used internally that problems arise.

    Curious...since you had to marry your internal drive to your new external drive, why didn't you simply upgrade your internal hard drive instead? Did you really need that extra 20 or so hours? But whatever the case, congratulations and enjoy!
     
  20. Dec 16, 2009 #4320 of 10316
    snowser

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    I'm pretty new to this and I didn't want to mess around with the internal drive till I got a feel for doing upgades with winmfs on a external drive. I couldn't get the new external drive working at first. Power up would hang. In retrospect it wouldn't have been any harder upgrading the internal drive. I probably will upgrade the internal drive in the future. Your posts about having the original drive on the shelf as a spare or troubleshooting tool is a good idea.
     

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