1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Dec 12, 2009 #4261 of 10248
    drhankz

    drhankz New Member

    306
    0
    Jan 14, 2008
    Salem NH
    My FIT idea would be either under a Soft Reboot section
    or under the Suggested Drive Section where the certain
    model drive needs this kind of adjustment - so-to-speak :)
     
  2. Dec 12, 2009 #4262 of 10248
    drey

    drey New Member

    207
    0
    Jul 21, 2008
    I just need to write-up step by step instructions. Today is Saturday and I'll try to do that.
     
  3. Dec 12, 2009 #4263 of 10248
    richsadams

    richsadams Active Member

    8,893
    2
    Jan 4, 2003
    It's the TiVo Medal of Honor for you my friend. :up: :)
     
  4. Dec 12, 2009 #4264 of 10248
    richsadams

    richsadams Active Member

    8,893
    2
    Jan 4, 2003
    Ah, it sounds like you've found the cause of your woes. Having TiVo on a UPS is excellent, however TiVo and it's eSATA drive can never be parted (unless by your hand). If the eSATA went down while TiVo was still on and then it came back up data corruption likely occurred. Both TiVo and the external drive have to be on the UPS. However it still could be a hardware issue.

    If the recordings are important I'd go ahead buy another enclosure and try it. I know it's not ethical but if it doesn't work you could probably return the enclosure.

    Otherwise you'd need to pull the hard drive out of the eSATA enclosure, connect it to a PC and run a diagnostic on it like WD's Lifeguard. But you can only run a high-level "quick test" without damaging the data. That may or may not tell you if the hard drive is bad.

    Some folks here have had success with a disk repair tool called SpinRite. (However it costs about as much as a new hard drive.):

    http://www.grc.com/sr/spinrite.htm

    Planning on upgrading your internal drive at some point is the way to go. All the info you need is on the first post. Put the original TiVo hard drive on the shelf for backup and you're good to go.

    Best of luck and keep us posted!
     
  5. Dec 12, 2009 #4265 of 10248
    drhankz

    drhankz New Member

    306
    0
    Jan 14, 2008
    Salem NH

    I AGREE with Rich :up: [​IMG] :up:
     
  6. Dec 12, 2009 #4266 of 10248
    bowlingblogger

    bowlingblogger New Member

    82
    0
    Oct 2, 2007
    Tucson, AZ
    Yeah!!! I almost wish I had kept my EVVS just so I could try it. Thanks a lot--you guys are turning me into a hard drive nerd :D
     
  7. Dec 12, 2009 #4267 of 10248
    drey

    drey New Member

    207
    0
    Jul 21, 2008
    FAQ, Troubleshooting:

    Certain newer WD Green drives ship with the updated Intellipark feature that is causing TiVo units where this drive is installed to either hang at reboot ("soft-reboot" issue on TiVo HD or Series 3) or not boot at all (Series 2 single and dual tuner). The solution to this issue is to disable IntelliPark feature so drives do not park their heads during the reboot.

    1. Download a copy of bootable CD with wdidle3.exe from the link below. Use WinRAR to uncompress "dos_wdidle3.rar" and burn ISO image to any CD-R disk.
    Download link: http://tiny.cc/o7Lvr

    2. Connect the affected WD drive to any available SATA connector on your motherboard. Ensure that in BIOS hard drives are set to EIDE Compatible mode and not AHCI or RAID. This is needed so bootable DOS CD can detect the drive.

    3. Boot from the above CD and change drive letter to R: (it can be other letter, depending on your PC configuration) and run "wdidle3 /D" to disable IntelliPark. The message should indicate that idle feature has been disabled.

    4. Turn off PC, remove the drive, load TiVo image and test. You should no longer have "soft-reboot" problem.

    -
     
  8. Dec 12, 2009 #4268 of 10248
    dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

    6,997
    18
    Jul 6, 2006
    Near...
    Nice work drey! :up::up::up:

    Question: Can this be done using a USB-SATA adapter if your PC doesn't have an internal SATA port.
     
  9. Dec 12, 2009 #4269 of 10248
    drhankz

    drhankz New Member

    306
    0
    Jan 14, 2008
    Salem NH
    GOOD QUESTION

    I can't confirm that - but it THEORY it should.

    Maybe DREY can confirm it
     
  10. Dec 12, 2009 #4270 of 10248
    drey

    drey New Member

    207
    0
    Jul 21, 2008
    No, unfortunately it won't work with USB-SATA adapter by default since MS-DOS doesn't have USB drivers preinstalled and as such, won't detect the drive.

    Technically, you can make a custom boot disk that will contain drivers for USB and than it will work. I'll see if I can update boot disk later to include USB drivers on it.

    Or, alternatively, if you need a drive with no soft-boot issue and with TiVo software already preinstalled, send me PM.
     
  11. Dec 12, 2009 #4271 of 10248
    MPSAN

    MPSAN Active Member

    1,193
    1
    Jun 20, 2009
    Portland,...
    Don't even think about becoming one of those!!! Some things are just not to be joked about! :D
    I'm just sa'in!
     
  12. Dec 12, 2009 #4272 of 10248
    MPSAN

    MPSAN Active Member

    1,193
    1
    Jun 20, 2009
    Portland,...
    Only 1 note about STEP 1 in the above. The download link is great but some may want/need to know the file is a RAR file and may need to know how to unRAR the file.
     
  13. Dec 12, 2009 #4273 of 10248
    drey

    drey New Member

    207
    0
    Jul 21, 2008
    updated :)
     
  14. Dec 12, 2009 #4274 of 10248
    MPSAN

    MPSAN Active Member

    1,193
    1
    Jun 20, 2009
    Portland,...
    Glad to help.
     
  15. Dec 12, 2009 #4275 of 10248
    bkdtv

    bkdtv New Member

    7,902
    0
    Jan 9, 2003
    DC Metro Area
    Thanks drey, I'll add that to the first when I get home tonight.

    Edit: Not added yet, will get to it today.
     
  16. Dec 12, 2009 #4276 of 10248
    drhankz

    drhankz New Member

    306
    0
    Jan 14, 2008
    Salem NH
    Yes - True - True - True - I forgot how archaic :thumbsdown: DOS is.

    On the other side of the coin - i'm surprised it has a SATA diver.
     
  17. Dec 13, 2009 #4277 of 10248
    gdpeck

    gdpeck New Member

    1
    0
    Oct 14, 2006
    Mesa, AZ
    Some things never change. I just did the same thing :rolleyes:

    I used a newer Hitachi Deskstar 1TB drive (HDS721010CLA332). This was for a Tivo Series 3. I decided to share a couple of snags I ran into during the process.

    First Hitachi has removed AAM functionality from FTools version 2.13 and 2.15. Once I downloaded FTools 2.11 (do a google search), I was able to determine that this model ships with AAM set to 128.

    I only had SATA cables for two drives, and wanted to keep the few programs that were left after I disconnected a faulty 500GB My DVR Expander (out of warranty since 02/09). Because of this, I decided to use the linux boot CD instead of WinMFS. I did use WinMFS to take a backup first. I used the MSLive ICG to generate the proper command, and the disk to disk copy worked great.

    I then installed the new drive and went through Tivo startup. It showed 144 hours of HD capacity. I guess the IGC doesn't show you how to do MFSSuperSize at Linux. So I pulled the drive from the Tivo, placed it back in the computer with the Windows drive still there and used WinMFS to turn on SuperSize. I then reassembled the Tivo, and plugged it in again, but it stuck on the powering up screen. I did a quick forum search, thought maybe I had forgotten to plug in the disk, and decided to open the Tivo again. After plugging in the drive, Tivo power up works correctly and system info shows 157 hours of HD available.

    So far for me, the whole process was pretty painless, other than the fact that I feel like I should have gotten more life out of the My DVR Expander, and it sucked to lose all of those shows. I may try a different enclosure for the eSata drive, at some point in the future.

    Thanks to Spike for the great tools and info at mfslive.org, and thanks to everybody who has posted their experiences here!
     
  18. Dec 13, 2009 #4278 of 10248
    eaayoung

    eaayoung New Member

    150
    0
    Feb 4, 2008
    Orlando, FL
    Same here. I was one of the lucky ones since mine lasted around 18 months.
     
  19. Dec 13, 2009 #4279 of 10248
    richsadams

    richsadams Active Member

    8,893
    2
    Jan 4, 2003
    Congrats on your "new" TiVo! Section IV, #31 of the FAQ refers to using v2.11 of the Hitachi Feature Tool to adjust the AAM (includes a link). Otherwise, good observations for those that follow. :up: If you do move your old WD My DVR Expander to a new enclosure I (and probably a number of others here) would be curious to know if it works. TIA.

    Enjoy!
     
  20. Dec 13, 2009 #4280 of 10248
    dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

    6,997
    18
    Jul 6, 2006
    Near...
    A purchaser of a new HD XL is reporting it hangs on soft reboot**here**.
    I wonder if some "bad" WD drives got into factory units?
     

Share This Page