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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Oct 20, 2009 #3861 of 10248
    richsadams

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    It doesn't seem that it's a global problem with WD GP drives because other models (to date) are not exhibiting the problem of not booting up entirely. In addition power saving mode generally occurs when a drive is inactive for a pre-determined amount of time. Since TiVo drives are active 24/7 it shouldn't be an issue even if the WD drives employed that option. Not saying that problems with other drives (WD or others) won't occur in the future, but it doesn't seem likely that the problem is anything more than a production change or as you mentioned possibly a batch of bad drives (although if they are "bad" it doesn't seem likely that they would work in PC's either which they apparently do). Still a mystery.
     
  2. Oct 20, 2009 #3862 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Nice find. Can you let us know how warm the enclosure gets?
     
  3. Oct 20, 2009 #3863 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Yes, restarting TiVo via the menu option is considered a "soft reboot" (a "hard reboot" is pulling the power plug). The issue has been with Series3's only though...TiVo HD's have never had a soft reboot problem.

    Good to know the Seagate is working well. :up:
     
  4. Oct 20, 2009 #3864 of 10248
    KevinG

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    First thing I did this morning was feel it...It was *barely* above room temperature. I'd like to run it a bit longer to see if that is consistent though. I have it standing vertically (as it is meant to be) next to my tivo in an entertainment center (with an open front, so pretty good air circulation).

    -Kevin
     
  5. Oct 20, 2009 #3865 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Sweet! A 1TB drive would probably run slightly hotter, but it sounds like the enclosure does a good job dissipating heat. :up:
     
  6. Oct 21, 2009 #3866 of 10248
    KevinG

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    Yes, that could be the case.

    Last evening I disconnected the drive from the Tivo, attached it via USB to my PC and set the accoustic settings (wife heard it the previous night...it's on the Series 3 in the bedroom). After that, it was much quieter...but it is transfering some vibration to the glass shelf that it is on...so I'll look into a way to isolate that.

    In summary, though, it is *not* getting anywhere near what I would describe as "hot". Just mildly warm. It's a keeper for sure...

    I'm likely to get another one, even though the price went up slightly.

    -Kevin
     
  7. Oct 21, 2009 #3867 of 10248
    moxie1617

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    Quick and dirty fix until you find a more elegant solution is bubble wrap under the drive.
     
  8. Oct 21, 2009 #3868 of 10248
    dswallow

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    A classic style mouse pad would work, too.
     
  9. Oct 21, 2009 #3869 of 10248
    richsadams

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    +1 :up:
     
  10. Oct 21, 2009 #3870 of 10248
    armstrr

    armstrr New Member

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    i got a prepared 2tb hard drive off of ebay for my tivoHD. it came with 2 pages of data...apparantly test data. popped it in and the tivo shows 318hrs.

    the drive was a wd20eads dated sept 09. it has been running for about a week with no problem.

    i'm curious what some of these "retailers" are doing differently and why there is little to no talk of 2tb single hard drive solutions for tivos.
     
  11. Oct 21, 2009 #3871 of 10248
    bkdtv

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    From the mfslive.org forums:

    Even if someone were to create a truncated image using one of these 2TB drives (would you volunteer?), I'm not sure WinMFS could restore it.
     
  12. Oct 21, 2009 #3872 of 10248
    richsadams

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    There are some posts about the ebay 2TB drives. (A search should turn them up.) A few others are also using them successfully.

    A DIY 2TB upgrade is quite complicated requiring extensive hand coding to expand and create new partitions and cannot be accomplished by using the winMFS or MFSLive programs commonly referred to here so there's not much talk about it. However for those wanting a 2TB "turn-key" alternative for their TiVo HD or HDXL, it seems like a good option.

    EDIT: Just saw bkdtv's post after I posted...what he said. :)
     
  13. Oct 21, 2009 #3873 of 10248
    wgw

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    The WD15EVDS does not appear to be compatible with the Series 3 (648). I performed full read/write diags on the new drive to make sure it had no defects. I used WinMFS to copy an original stock drive to the new drive. Selected yes when prompted to limit to 1TB partitions. I completed the Guided setup. After a soft boot and several hard boots, it is stuck on the Welcome! Powering up... screen.

    MDL: WD15EVDS-63V9B0
    Product of Thailand
    DATE: 04 OCT 2009
    DCM: HHNCNT2CAB
    R/N : 701640
    LBA: 2930277168
    Firmware: 01.00A01

    UPDATE: My WD15EVDS is working with a hard boot now. My fault the hard boot did not work before. It still won't soft boot consistantly though. Other than the soft boot issue, it appears to be functioning normally. Capacity says 178 HD hours. It was 143 HD hours with the WD10EACS.
     
  14. Oct 21, 2009 #3874 of 10248
    dlfl

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    wgw,

    You disabled Anti-Virus and Network Security whiile using WinMFS ?
     
  15. Oct 21, 2009 #3875 of 10248
    wgw

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    Hi dlfl,

    There is no Antivirus installed. My diag computer is little more than a bare WinXP Pro install. I'll try again with Windows Firewall disabled.
     
  16. Oct 21, 2009 #3876 of 10248
    armstrr

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    i didn't understand a word of that...but that's why i went the prepared drive route...that, and my computer is 5yrs old and i don't even know if i could have prepared a bare drive with it. as long as what i bought works...i'm happy!!!
     
  17. Oct 21, 2009 #3877 of 10248
    wgw

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    dlfl,

    Didn't work with Windows Firewall disabled. Still hangs at power up.

    I think I'll try using Hitachi Feature Tool to reduce the capacity of the WD15EVDS from 1.5TB to 1.2TB and see what happens.
     
  18. Oct 22, 2009 #3878 of 10248
    mcmnky

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    I'd also be interested in hearing anyone's experience with 1.5TB drives in the TiVo HD. Beach Audio currently has the WD15EVDS for $143.

    My stock HD with MyDVR expander is acting up, which I hope is only drive issues. (pixelation, partial records, just generally being a bad TiVo)

    If the TiVo uses 1.26 of the 1.5TB, that's about 15% more space for about 30% more money over the 1TB drives. But for all the hassle of the upgrade, I figure it makes sense to go as big as I can while I have the unit open.

    I tend to record whole seasons of shows to watch at once, so I have run in to space issues with my current set up.

    My plan is to copy all my current recordings (MRV for SD, download to computer for HD), divorce the eSATA, and do a truncated copy to the new drive. It's been a few years since I dropped a new drive in a Series 2, but I think I remember how these things work.

    It'll be a few days (at least) until I get everything transferred and can start he process in earnest, but I'll let you folks know how it goes.
     
  19. Oct 22, 2009 #3879 of 10248
    mcmnky

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    Ew. Just noticed wgw is having issues WD15EVDS in a Series 3. Hmmm.

    This thread ("Attempting Install of WD 1.5TB EADS in Series3 TiVo") (although dealing with a different model WD drive) is encouraging (for me)--that folks are getting some extra storage from 1.5TB drives, and that the TiVoHD is less prone to the type of issues wgw is seeing with the Series 3.
     
  20. Oct 22, 2009 #3880 of 10248
    alyssa

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    Just as a point of reference;
    I replaced my HD with an WD10EVVS in sept. It is working fine with no issues.
    made in Thailand
    Date 7.21.09
    DCM DHNCHV2MGB
    R/N 701640
    LBA 1953525168
     

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