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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Oct 14, 2009 #3801 of 10248
    dswallow

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    It's really been awhile since I did anything to a TiVo receiver I owned like upgrade a drive. But last week I started having lots of issues on one of my Series 3 units with stuttering video and reboots so I knew what was coming. I removed the external storage I'd added to see if it was the internal or the external drive and it still happened so I ordered a drive to replace the internal one yesterday.

    It arrived today, and this was the first time I've used the WinMFS utility -- what a wonderful improvement over how things used to be with Linux boot CDs. Of course I also remember back to long ago when we had run a couple different utilities, too -- and use our own boot CD's separate from all the utilities.

    It took *maybe* 8 minutes to back up from the old/failing drive and restore to the new drive. I probably spent more time disconnecting all the cables, bringing it downstairs to the computer and opening up the case.

    BTW, seeing all the nonsense going on with the latest WD10EVVS drive, I simply ordered a WD10EVDS from Amazon instead. $109.98 + $3.99 for overnight shipping. I'm not gonna quibble over $13, considering how much I used to spend on drives 1/4 the size. :)

    I plugged it all back in and it came right up -- well, as "right up" as a Series 3 can come, at least. It took a "few" minutes. All seems well so far.
     
  2. Oct 14, 2009 #3802 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Nice. :up: Yep, thinking back to the Hinsdale days...these kids today with their fancy winMFS...they got it made. ;)
     
  3. Oct 14, 2009 #3803 of 10248
    DCIFRTHS

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    It was a fun time when the first reports of Bless TiVo, and company, were made available for us to use :)

    BTW Rich, have you heard back from WD? Sorry if I missed it.
     
  4. Oct 14, 2009 #3804 of 10248
    richsadams

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    I just received an e-mail from WD this a.m.:

    Of course they didn't address my question regarding any changes in production of the WD10EVVS (manufacture date specific, DCM codes, etc.). I wrote them back saying that we're using their drives in a Unix environment and need more info about the DCM as well as any production changes. Again, no high hopes we'll get anything definitive, but you never know!
     
  5. Oct 14, 2009 #3805 of 10248
    innocentfreak

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    This was their reply to me...
    I think he means note this device has been made to work with Tivo. I will definitely be writing back since this isn't the case.
     
  6. Oct 14, 2009 #3806 of 10248
    jlib

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    That's funny. I get the same kind of non sequitur, semi-literate responses whenever I write them about something. And from different people. Its almost as if it you are talking to a badly programmed expert system...
     
  7. Oct 14, 2009 #3807 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Yep, here's the response I received this afternoon...

    I didn't have great hopes of finding out anything really relevant, but I thought I'd try as well. Looks like we're all getting about the same blank stare from someone without the ability to help. I expanded on my original inquiry and asked that it be forwarded to the next level. Doubt that will happen or that if it does they'll say much of anything else, but again, you never know.
     
  8. Oct 14, 2009 #3808 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Who signed your e-mail? Just wondering if my friend "Pablo" is answering everyone's e-mail. Thanks for the follow-up BTW. :up:
     
  9. Oct 14, 2009 #3809 of 10248
    innocentfreak

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    Yeah it was Pablo R also. I am tempted to call support to see if they are any help but not sure when I will have time.

    Does anyone have experience with Amazon RMAs? I am debating on just keeping the drive if I am going to lose my gift certificate and have to pay shipping. I will eventually order the EVDS drive or Seagate if it doesn't work.

    Also I was wondering. Did anyone try with MFSlive instead of WinMFS just in case?
    I don't have a second computer right now and I don't know Linux enough to mess with it right now. I have had luck in the past using it but had a second PC to generate the lines for me.
     
  10. Oct 14, 2009 #3810 of 10248
    richsadams

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    I wonder if there is really a "Pablo R." or is everyone that answers support e-mails coincidentally named "Pablo R."? :rolleyes:

    Amazon has always been great about RMA's. When you go through the online return process you just need to tell them that it's defective...which is a strict sense it is because it doesn't work for you. They'll give you a pre-paid shipping label so there's no shipping charge. If you just say that you don't want it, they'll ask you to pay return shipping. You can get 100% credit on whatever card you used within 30 days of purchase.
     
  11. Oct 14, 2009 #3811 of 10248
    innocentfreak

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    Good to know. Thanks. I am RMAing it today since it doesn't look like we are getting anywhere with WD or will anytime soon.
     
  12. Oct 14, 2009 #3812 of 10248
    Len McRiddles

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    So what is the next best drive to use in your opinion?
     
  13. Oct 14, 2009 #3813 of 10248
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    Was in Staples looking for a DVD burner and saw where they are carrying the Antec M-1 external case. Price was around $52.00.
     
  14. Oct 14, 2009 #3814 of 10248
    innocentfreak

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    Personally I am probably just going to go with the EVDS version from Amazon. It is the same drive with a larger buffer so I just hope it hasn't been upgraded the same way. It is only $10 more so not a huge loss.
     
  15. Oct 15, 2009 #3815 of 10248
    richsadams

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    That's about the going rate right now...haven't seen any on sale for a while. At one time they came down to $19.99 at Amazon and I've seen them down around $25, but for now they seem to be stuck at the $50 mark. Very nice enclosure, I'm using one with a backup drive. There are alternatives though...list on the first post of the Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ.
     
  16. Oct 15, 2009 #3816 of 10248
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    The WD10EVDS is popular, but most any of the recommended drives on the first post are worthy.
     
  17. Oct 15, 2009 #3817 of 10248
    DCIFRTHS

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    From searching, I have found a different explanation as to what DCM is. It stated that DCM contains a list of components used in the HD.

    Anyone know for sure?
     
  18. Oct 15, 2009 #3818 of 10248
    bicker

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    Pablo R.
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  19. Oct 15, 2009 #3819 of 10248
    richsadams

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    That's my understanding as well...particularly the fifth and sixth letters which indicate the heads that are used. I've also read that it indicates which logic board it has and I saw another post saying that it also includes the firmware verison...but then I saw another post that said it does not. It's very important to folks that are rebuilding broken hard drives. But I have yet to find a breakdown of the actual code. For our purposes, I have no idea if it's meaningful. The manufacture date seems to have as much to do with it as anything. If it does turn out something has been changed it'll be a surprise as bkdtv pointed out, the WD10EVVS is the very same drive that TiVo uses. :confused:
     
  20. Oct 15, 2009 #3820 of 10248
    dswallow

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    As I mentioned a handful of posts above yours, that's the drive I just bought... from Amazon... and had no trouble with using.
     

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