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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Nov 10, 2007 #341 of 10248
    Canoehead

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    When setting up something like the Antex MX-1, you can use the USB connection to the PC when running the WinMFS process. I don't think this worked under linux because of lack of USB support, but don't take that as gospel.

    At any rate, when I added the external to my already internally upgraded S3 I used my laptop, and connected the new drive via the USB connection on the Antec, and I left the existing drive in the S3 case, using the Sabrent USB-SATA adaptor with its power supply.
     
  2. Nov 10, 2007 #342 of 10248
    Fofer

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    This is really good to know! I was expecting to need a desktop PC for the marrying procedure. Looks like I can do it with a laptop and a USB-SATA adapter after all. Was it this one?

    http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skusearch.hmx?SCriteria=AA48710&CartID=done&nextloc=

    And, along these lines... would *any* USB-SATA adapter do the trick?
     
  3. Nov 10, 2007 #343 of 10248
    stretch35

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    anybody have to keep resetting about once a day the remote address code for tivo hd..I run series 3 and hd side by side I don't know if it 9.2a from 9.2j or what but I think I've gone thru the remote setup 5 times in 3 days
     
  4. Nov 10, 2007 #344 of 10248
    MrHat

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    I hope this hasnt been asked already....are my current recordings safe when a esata device is added? I read you basically loose everything if its removed....what happens when you plug it in....besides the obvious increases
     
  5. Nov 10, 2007 #345 of 10248
    bkdtv

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    Your current recordings are safe.

    Be sure to check the first post for answers to other common questions.
     
  6. Nov 10, 2007 #346 of 10248
    srcohen

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    I have a FAP750 with S3. Worked fine after 9.2 update. But then had to do a restart and now it will not. It appears I have lost everything on the drive. Heelp!
     
  7. Nov 10, 2007 #347 of 10248
    richsadams

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    About the only thing you can do is unplug TiVo, unplug or turn off your eSATA drive, check the eSATA cable connections to make sure they are snug on both ends, power up your eSATA drive and plug TiVo back in.

    If that doesn't work, you could try using TiVo's kickstart diagnostic programs to see if it will repair itself, but I've only seen that work with an eSATA drive a couple of times, and not with a FAP AFAIK.

    If all else fails you'll get the divorce screen and there's not much else to do but divorce it. Be sure to divorce it properly or you'll have a heck of a time trying to marry a new drive later.

    Best of luck!
     
  8. Nov 11, 2007 #348 of 10248
    MrHat

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    Thanks BKDTV....I did read it...apparently i missed #11...I saw it this time ;)
     
  9. Nov 11, 2007 #349 of 10248
    HSW

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    Did not see this question asked: If I marry the ESATA drive to a previously upgraded Tivo using MFS Toos, will all season passes and recorded shows remain? Thanks.
     
  10. Nov 11, 2007 #350 of 10248
    jerryv

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    I have a S3 running 9.2, just wanted to verify that this is as simple as it seems.

    All I need to do is disconnect my existing TIVO drive from its existing connections in the TIVO box and then attach it AND the WD drive to separate USB ports (using USB to SATA adapters) on my Vista machine and then run WinMFS? Then attach the TIVO drives to my TIVO and then the WD drive? Correct?

    Thanks, jerryv
     
  11. Nov 11, 2007 #351 of 10248
    titleist017

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    Hey there, I have a WD My Book Essential 320gb hard drive and I was wondering if it needs to be a "special" hard drive or do I just need to get an esata cable? Does the cable have a regular usb end for the hard drive or are there adapters out there? Thank you so much!!

    Edit: Oh, I have the Series 3 HD. I read on the first page that series 3 hd cannot use non verified hd's. But that was oct so I was wondering if it was different.
     
  12. Nov 11, 2007 #352 of 10248
    bkdtv

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    Where did you read that?

    As indicated in FAQ #3, the Series3 will work with "Non Verified" eSATA drives. It will not work with USB hard drives.

    As per FAQ #16, USB drives are not supported. You cannot use a USB -> eSATA adapter.
     
  13. Nov 11, 2007 #353 of 10248
    bkdtv

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    That is unnecessary if (1) you have a Series3 (2) you are still using the original internal drive.

    The only time you ever have to use a PC is if (1) you previously upgraded your TiVO's internal drive or (2) you have a TivoHD -- not a Series3 -- and want to use a Non Verified drive.

    If your TiVo Series3 still has the original drive inside, then just plug an eSATA drive into your TiVo with the appropriate cable. No PC is necessary.
     
  14. Nov 11, 2007 #354 of 10248
    titleist017

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    Ah, thanks for replying. I didn't know it had to be "esata" drives, I figured USB hard drives would work. Guess not :/

    Can u get some of these drives for $100-200? Hope so.
     
  15. Nov 11, 2007 #355 of 10248
    jerryv

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    Sorry I should have clarified---I have an upgraded HD in my TIVO.
     
  16. Nov 11, 2007 #356 of 10248
    bkdtv

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    The "Tivo Verified" Western Digital DVR Expander (500Gb) sells for $199.

    Then your previous post was correct.
     
  17. Nov 11, 2007 #357 of 10248
    S3-2501

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    Do you mean that the recordings have disappeared, or did you get an error screen from the TiVo about the drive being disconnected?

    If it's the latter, here's something to try. Once after I connected the FAP to my notebook to change the drive's light setting I got the drive missing screen when I reconnected power to the s3. I figured out that the drive spun down and turned off when I unplugged the PC's usb cable, but it did not spin up again when I plugged the S3 back into the wall.

    To solve this, I found that in this unique case I had to use the FAP's power switch manually to spin the drive back up, then re apply power to the S3. The FAP was so quiet I had to put my ear next to it to make sure it was up and running. The drive was then detected and everything was intact.

    I hope this helps...
     
  18. Nov 12, 2007 #358 of 10248
    Canoehead

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    Pretty much any good one, so long as it has a power supply. Remember, a 2.5" can probably pull enough juice off the USB Plug to run itself, but a 3.5" drive WILL need an external A/C converted power source - or if using a desktop PC, use an internal HDD power cable.

    Remember, first step should always be a truncated backup
     
  19. Nov 12, 2007 #359 of 10248
    c3

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    And the second step is to test the backup. My first backups did NOT work, and there were no error messages.
     
  20. Nov 12, 2007 #360 of 10248
    jagz27

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    Does anybody know what stores besides Best Buy and the TiVo website are carrying the DVR Expander? It is out of stock at both of those places. I checked the B&M BestBuy, and it was out there too.
     

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