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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Aug 18, 2009 #3441 of 10248
    bkdtv

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    Power off your TiVo and then double-check your connections -- make sure the cable is inserted firmly as possible on both the TiVo and the My DVR Expander.
     
  2. Aug 18, 2009 #3442 of 10248
    kingmob

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    Thanks, Rich.

    I've been through a number of the threads here and at mfslive.org researching the issue, and understand Spike's statements are pretty much conclusive. But there are posts like the one I responded to in which someone isn't completely clear about what they did, but it seems like they might have gotten an original internal drive + Expander to new drive transfer to work, so I keep asking for clarification, just in case.
     
  3. Aug 19, 2009 #3443 of 10248
    fidget13a

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    Good morning again,
    I figured I would ask ths before my replacement drive arrives. It says:

    Drives marketed for DVRs come preconfigured with firmware settings to minimize noise. Most other drives, including the Western Digital WD10EADS and WD10EACS, come configured for best desktop performance, not the lowest possible noise.

    Do I adjust the AAM settings on the WD10EADS before or after I install the TIVO program on it?

    Thanks again
     
  4. Aug 19, 2009 #3444 of 10248
    bkdtv

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    It shouldn't matter. If you want to be safe, do it first.
     
  5. Aug 19, 2009 #3445 of 10248
    MPSAN

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    Yup and I did mine after without an issue. I did use HDDSCAN, however, as the Hitachi tools did not like my newer ICH10R SATA controller. HDDSCAN is a Windows app and it found the drive. It does not install anything, you just click the .EXE.
     
  6. Aug 20, 2009 #3446 of 10248
    siratfus

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    My 4 months old tivo HDXL is stuck in the "powering up" screen. I'm planning on doing an upgrade to a 2tb hard drive. I want to save all settings and recordings. I would like to know is it a requirement to follow those exact instructions from page 1 of this thread that involves downloading winMFS? Or is page 1 simply offering 1 of many methods? Because the way that I know how to clone a hard drive involves a software called called Apricorn EZ gig II.

    If anybody can give some advice. Thank you!
     
  7. Aug 20, 2009 #3447 of 10248
    bkdtv

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    You need to follow the instructions in the first post. WinMFS and MFSLive are your options. Other cloning methods do not work.
     
  8. Aug 20, 2009 #3448 of 10248
    Sebjar

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    Hi there,

    I'm new to the group but wanted to find out if an Acomdata 1TB drive works with a TIVO Series 3 unit?

    I read that the Acomdata drives do work with DVR's but I can't seem to get mine working with our TIVO. It keeps telling me there aren't any external devices connected.

    So I was wondering if the drive had to be formatted a certain way or these drives just don't connect to TIVO with the esata cable.

    Any advice or help would really be appreciated. Thanks.

    Seb
     
  9. Aug 20, 2009 #3449 of 10248
    richsadams

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    bkdtv offers sound advice. Follow the instructions exactly and you should be fine.
     
  10. Aug 20, 2009 #3450 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Welcome to the forum. AFAIK the drive you're trying to use in an unknown. There are a few other drives that do not work, hence the recommended drive list in the first post of this sticky. You do not need to (and should not) format an eSATA drive to use w/TiVo.

    First, do you actually have a TiVo Series3 (http://i37.tinypic.com/4lhmiq.jpg)? Or is it a TiVo HD (http://i43.tinypic.com/2nqy554.jpg)? The TiVo Series3 is capable of utilizing an "unapproved" eSATA drive via plug and play (providing the internal drive has not been upgraded and again, some eSATA drives do not work). The TiVo HD can only utilize the approved WD My DVR Expander (www.tivo.com/expand) via plug and play.

    That said there are a number of things that can go wrong when adding an eSATA drive. The eSATA hard drive itself may not be working, the enclosure may have problems (chipset, bridge, etc.) or the eSATA cable may not be working (usually due to faulty/short connectors). Or it may just not be compatible due to the hardware and/or firmware configuration.

    Have another read through the first post on this sticky thread and see if you're doing everything right. Bottom line is that if you are, that drive just may not work. Best of luck and let us know how it goes.
     
  11. Aug 20, 2009 #3451 of 10248
    fidget13a

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    I emailed Dell about how I got bounced around on the phone. They apologized and sent me a $50 online coupon. :)
     
  12. Aug 21, 2009 #3452 of 10248
    fidget13a

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    Here I am again looking for more advice. :-( I got one of my new WD 1TB harddrives in and tried to install again. I tried three times but it does not ask me if I want to expand the drive. Any suggestions why it is not asking me? Thanks
     
  13. Aug 21, 2009 #3453 of 10248
    MPSAN

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    Is it possible that it is behind the main window? Also, are you running anything else while you are doing this? WinMFS is known to not update if you switch over to other running tasks like Browsing the web to kill time.
     
  14. Aug 21, 2009 #3454 of 10248
    fidget13a

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    I closed the window and did not see anything there either. I started form scratch again and put it n the TIVO to see for sure and it only shows 21 hours HD. When the computer reboots there are a few things running like AIM and I shut them down before I go any further. last week when I tried the other drive...the first time this happened but then I did it again and everything was OK. Maybe I will try the computer in the other room. :-(


    Thanks


    I just noticed that Norton Antivirus was still running in back ground. I think it worked last time when I disabled it. Will try that and try to redo the drive again.
     
  15. Aug 21, 2009 #3455 of 10248
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    YES, the instructions state to turn off NAV, etc. I know I DID!
     
  16. Aug 21, 2009 #3456 of 10248
    fidget13a

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    Still no luck getting the expand question. would it anything to do with me running WD diagnostics on the drive before I started to do anything? It also ask me a different question the first time I tried it but unfortunately I can not remember the pop up that came on the screen. :-(
     
  17. Aug 21, 2009 #3457 of 10248
    bkdtv

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    If it does not ask you the question, you can always select Tools -> Mfsadd to expand manually.

    You should then use Tools->Mfsinfo to verify that you have 144-157 HD hours on the new drive.
     
  18. Aug 21, 2009 #3458 of 10248
    fidget13a

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    I did it on the other computer and IT WORKED!!! :) It is showing 157 hours HD. What is crazy is.....last week it did not work on the other computer but worked on this one. Just the opposite. Now I will try it out a while before I screw everything back together to make sure drive is not defected like one last week.

    thanks everyone for your patience and help.
     
  19. Aug 21, 2009 #3459 of 10248
    kingmob

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    Thanks for the clarification--I missed your reply earlier. I had quite an adventure trying to save my recordings and wasn't successful anyway. I finally just accepted it, divorced the Expander, and copied the original internal drive to a new WD10EADS.
     
  20. Aug 22, 2009 #3460 of 10248
    mooneydriver

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    I have a Tivo S3 with an upgraded internal drive and an external drive. When I upgraded these drives a couple of years ago, the MFSSuperSize option was not turned on. Is it possible to turn on this option on BOTH of these drives now, or would I be playing with fire?
     

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