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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Aug 12, 2009 #3381 of 10248
    jeffster

    jeffster New Member

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    Never mind... TiVo shipped me a Series 3 with 8.01c on it. Never occurred to me.

    Forced the update, got 11, and connected the external drive no problem.

    Duh...
     
  2. Aug 12, 2009 #3382 of 10248
    richsadams

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    D'oh! Glad to hear that it's working now!
     
  3. Aug 12, 2009 #3383 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Exactly right. :up: Nice find on the link...had never seen that before.

    Here's the link to the WD site where you can select your drive and download the free diagnostic program as well (JIC):

    WD's Lifeguard.

    Here's the link for the WD10EADS:

    http://support.wdc.com/product/download.asp?groupid=608&lang=en
     
  4. Aug 12, 2009 #3384 of 10248
    mumpower

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    That's a bit bolder than I'm going to be here. I'll just spend more for the safer solution.

    Thanks for all of your feedback and advice. People like you who strive to assist others are the internet's greatest treasure.
     
  5. Aug 12, 2009 #3385 of 10248
    MPSAN

    MPSAN Active Member

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    I just tested mine and can say that the drive will not show up in My Computer even with no TiVo software on it. You must use Disk Management to create the partition first! But, do not do it...you do not want it to show up in My Computer.

    The way I tested mine was to just bring up WinMFS...it should show up there. Sometimes you need to reboot Windows for it to show, but WinMFS saw it using my SATA to USB converter.
     
  6. Aug 12, 2009 #3386 of 10248
    richsadams

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    No problem. Actually if you're referring to the Fantom drive I mentioned as the "safer solution", it's almost half the price of the Iomega you were looking at...so no need to "spend more". ;)

    Let us know how things go.
     
  7. Aug 12, 2009 #3387 of 10248
    keenanSR

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    Will do. I have Amazon Prime but went ahead with 1-day shipping for $3.99 as I figure less time being handled the better.
     
  8. Aug 12, 2009 #3388 of 10248
    innocentfreak

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    If you haven't already I would go on Amazon.com under your account and you can review their packing and even supply pictures if you want.
     
  9. Aug 12, 2009 #3389 of 10248
    MPSAN

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    OK, since my 3 TiVo HD's are 6 weeks old now it was time to try to break one of them. Rich said I could! Well, no such luck...now I have 157Hours of HD space with my WD10EADS!

    A few notes.

    1. I think that a big help to me was to have a tool set that I bought from Harbor Freight a while ago for other things. It was called a 100 piece security bit set and even came with a magnetic adapter to fit the bits onto a ratchet or ratchet straight handle! It is only $7.99 and has it all! It is ITEM 91310-9VGA. If you do not have a B&M they do mail order. Not sure if this is worth adding to the FAQ.

    2. I used the new PC I built for my wife and it has 8 SATA ports! Great for the 2 drive copy method. I do believe that with these newer MoBo's (ICH10R) that the Hitachi Tools is not something to even try for AAM. It does not see my drives and does not even find a Wireless Mouse. HDDSCAN worked well, and as mentioned before, no need to reboot Windows.

    3. Anyway, I could not find the option in WinMFS to expand MY time so I could actually watch the shows I record!

    Thank everyone again for this site!
     
  10. Aug 12, 2009 #3390 of 10248
    innocentfreak

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    I can't make up my mind. I have a couple 500gb WD Sata drives with IDE adaptors in my Directivos which I am no longer using and I keep debating on whether to reuse them in the Tivo HDs. If I don't I will probably end up just throwing them in my server until I buy the 1tb drives though I have been holding out to see if the 1.5tb drive becomes available.
     
  11. Aug 13, 2009 #3391 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Congrats on the upgrade...and apparently your ability to see again! :D

    With regard to #3...it's easy to miss. It's the second option under the "Fantasy Formatting" drop down menu, right after "Create Free TiVo Subscription - Y/N". ;)

    Thanks for the tool time tip. I'll have to find that Harbor Freight place. :up:
     
  12. Aug 13, 2009 #3392 of 10248
    Robin

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    I feel like a loser bumping my post, but I'm gonna do it anyway.

    Anyone? Bueller?
     
  13. Aug 13, 2009 #3393 of 10248
    moxie1617

    moxie1617 New Member

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    The upgrade instructions are in the 1st post. Even how to do it with no SATA connections in your PC.
     
  14. Aug 13, 2009 #3394 of 10248
    Airhead315

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    My advice would be to go to Best Buy and "Rent" a SATA hard drive enclosure...Dont go until you are ready as thier "Rental" policy states you must return the item within 30 days to get your "Deposit" back.
     
  15. Aug 13, 2009 #3395 of 10248
    Robin

    Robin Nasty Woman

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    Can you tell me where? The only options I'm seeing for a TiVo HD are the my DVR expander, or pulling the original drive and 'marrying' it to the new one.
     
  16. Aug 13, 2009 #3396 of 10248
    bkdtv

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    Only the My DVR Expander works with the "plug and play" external drive expansion on the TivoHD. You cannot use a USB drive with the TivoHD.

    If you want to use a different eSATA drive with the TivoHD, you must always pull the internal drive and marry it with a computer. If you don't have available SATA ports, you can marry the drive on your computer using USB->SATA adapters. The process is the same, except the drives are connected to your computer with USB->SATA (or USB->eSATA) adapters instead of SATA. Once done, you connect them with SATA/eSATA to the TiVo.

    If you are going to open the TiVo, I think you might as well upgrade the internal with a 1TB drive ($80-$100). As above, you would connect the drive to your computer with a USB->SATA adapter ($10-$20) to perform the upgrade.
     
  17. Aug 13, 2009 #3397 of 10248
    kingmob

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    The FAQ says that the WD10EADS will work on "the newer TivoHD model." Does "newer" in that case mean "as compared to the S3" or "as compared to older versions of the TivoHD"? I originally read it as the latter, but the former makes more sense. Obviously, I'd like to install it in a TivoHD, but if it's likely to have problems, then I'll look at a different drive.

    Also, are the DOA reports at Newegg limited to WD10EADSes coming from Newegg, or is the issue more widespread?
     
  18. Aug 13, 2009 #3398 of 10248
    bkdtv

    bkdtv New Member

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    It means "as compared to the Series3." TiVo continued to sell the Series3 for about a year after the TivoHD was released, so many don't realize that it predated the TivoHD by about 15 months.

    TiVo has not updated the hardware on the TivoHD (aside from the larger drive in the TivoHD XL) since it was released in July, 2007. They updated the firmware a few times, but that doesn't have any affect on upgrades.
     
  19. Aug 13, 2009 #3399 of 10248
    kingmob

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    Thanks for the quick reply. I went ahead and got it.

    For anyone interested in the drive, ZipZoomFly has it right now for $94.99. There's a $15 mail in rebate, and they offer 20% cash back if you go through Bing. So, that takes it down to $61 before tax (if applicable in your state).
     
  20. Aug 13, 2009 #3400 of 10248
    MPSAN

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    Yes, I had posted that same deal, but I did not try to add the couipon code of ZZF-8810 to this new deal...it may save you even more. I got mine (and installed it yesterday) before the BING 20% cash back so I paid $67...still a great deal and all went well with the upgrade!
     

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