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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Aug 6, 2009 #3321 of 10306
    Sparty99

    Sparty99 Well-Known Member

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    Can anyone provide a quick review on the Hitachi in the OP for a S3? I've ordered one of the Western Digital drives, but it's pricier than I would have liked and it's on back order.
     
  2. Aug 6, 2009 #3322 of 10306
    MPSAN

    MPSAN Active Member

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    Ok, here is the deal. I went to MS Live Cash Back (BING?) and went to ZipZoomFly. I added the WD10EADS to the cart at $89.99 (free shipping, too) and there is a $15 rebate. Then, in the cart, add a code of ZZF8810 and it comes to this....

    $88.99-$5-$15 rebate-$2.12 CashBack= $67.87. I have Never seen it for less.

    OK, Rich, now I will break one of my new THD's in 5 days!
     
  3. Aug 7, 2009 #3323 of 10306
    csell

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    Need help - I just upgraded my Tivo HD (using DVRUpgrades product). Anyway, all worked perfectly. Booted up correctly, setup correctly and was able to watch and record tv. It then did a software update and when it rebooted, it got stuck in the "Welcome! Powering up...." boot loop.

    NOW WHAT?????
     
  4. Aug 7, 2009 #3324 of 10306
    ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    Did you try pulling the plug?
     
  5. Aug 7, 2009 #3325 of 10306
    csell

    csell Member

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    Yes, I tried unplugging - nothing, still stuck on the "Powering Up screen"....

    So basically I successfully installed the new hard drive and it worked perfectly until it tried to do a software upgrade and now its back to the "Powering Up" reboot cycle....

    Anyone have a clue???? I've spent a lot of money and have nothing to show for it. Anyone have a similar experience?
     
  6. Aug 7, 2009 #3326 of 10306
    moxie1617

    moxie1617 New Member

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    Did you e-mail or call DVRUpgrade. They should be able to help. Could have been damaged in shipping?
     
  7. Aug 7, 2009 #3327 of 10306
    csell

    csell Member

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    I did the installation myself (so thus no shipping). But as previously said, it worked perfectly - booted up and worked great until Tivo did a software update and then its back to not being able to get past that Powering Up screen... I have a hard time believing its the hard drive since its a brand new hard drive and worked perfectly until the reboot.... I also don't think its the motherboard because, once again, it worked perfectly. Is there any chance it could be power supply related? My initial thought is no because it worked with the new harddrive just minutes earlier...
     
  8. Aug 7, 2009 #3328 of 10306
    moxie1617

    moxie1617 New Member

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    I believe the process of the upgrade installs the new firmware to a new sector of the disk that has not been used before. This sector could be bad. Hopefully some more knowledgable folks will chime in but I would still call DVRUpgrade. Only they know how they preped the disk.
     
  9. Aug 7, 2009 #3329 of 10306
    MPSAN

    MPSAN Active Member

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    Is the original HDD still there? You could put that back in if it was OK before the upgrade.
     
  10. Aug 7, 2009 #3330 of 10306
    csell

    csell Member

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    The reason I did this upgrade in the first place was because it stopped working - got caught in the Powering Up reboot cycle. So I assumed it was a bad harddrive, so I upgraded to the new one, which initially worked perfectly, until Tivo did its software update and then rebooted the system.
     
  11. Aug 7, 2009 #3331 of 10306
    MPSAN

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    OK, sorry I did not see that.
     
  12. Aug 9, 2009 #3332 of 10306
    innocentfreak

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    Has anyone seen any updates on the 1.5tb WD AV drives, WD15EVDS, yet?
     
  13. Aug 9, 2009 #3333 of 10306
    Robin

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    First, may I just say: WOW. This guide is a masterpiece, should be printed, bound, and sold at Borders. Wow.

    Now I have one quick question about upgrading with an external drive only. The guide says:

    *snip*
    The first quote says this method requires you to open the box, but I don't see anything about opening the box in the actual instructions. The warranty's not a problem (mine's a refurb and is out of warranty anyway) and I don't mind opening the box if necessary (I upgraded my s1 and dtivo) but I feel like I'm not understanding the instructions. It sounds like it should just be "buy drive enclosure and drive, plug in, put in remote code".

    What am I missing?
     
  14. Aug 9, 2009 #3334 of 10306
    greg_burns

    greg_burns Now in HD

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    That depends on a couple things. Do you have an original S3 or a TivoHD? Have you already upgraded the internal drive? BTW, the remote code was obsoleted awhile ago.

    If you have an original S3 running the original internal drive, you can just add pretty much any external drive. Just plug it in. You enable it through the menus now (no longer with a KickStart remote code).

    If you have a TivoHD (regardless if original drive or modified internal drive) or an original S3 (only required if it is has a modified internal drive), then you must remove the internal drive and connect it and your new external to a PC to "marry" them using WinMFS.

    Does that answer your question?
     
  15. Aug 9, 2009 #3335 of 10306
    bkdtv

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    I updated the FAQ, "How do I reduce the seek noise on my new hard drive?" as suggested to include instructions for HDDScan.exe.
     
  16. Aug 9, 2009 #3336 of 10306
    Airhead315

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    Thanks for this FAQ. Just upgraded my TivoHD with a WD10EADS.

    I ran into one issue but it was my color-blind eyes that were at fault. I turned the Tivo on and only the green light was on and my TV said No input, then after a minute or two it said not supported mode. I looked up what it means when just the green light is on and people were reporting it as a classic sign of a catasrophic HD failure. It turns out that the component inputs on the Tivo HD are in the reverse order as all of my other components. All of my others are Y,Pb,Pr but the tivo is Pr,Pb,Y and since im color blind I screwed up the order(green and red are very close in color for me). lol
     
  17. Aug 9, 2009 #3337 of 10306
    MPSAN

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    Glad it worked. My WD10EADS will be here from ZZF on Tuesday! Did you copy shows or did you do the 1 drive at a time upgrade? Did you set the AAM to 128?
     
  18. Aug 9, 2009 #3338 of 10306
    Airhead315

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    I copied all of the shows and did the AAM setting. Everything was very easy. I ran into difficulty due to my hardware however, I have 6 sata ports on my motherboard but when I went plug everything in I realized that my power supply only has 2 sata power plugs. Unfortunately my primary hard drive that runs windows also needs a sata power plug. To do the transfer of all of my shows I had to goto bestbuy and purchase (Rent...) a Hard Drive enclosure (USB) so I could hook everything up at once.

    The easiest part was the AAM setting. It also looks like now that the process was simplified about 2 hours after I did it. The FAQ changed to use a windows utility to do it. I used a boot CD.
     
  19. Aug 9, 2009 #3339 of 10306
    MPSAN

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    Yeah, I have both AAM utils. I think I will do AAM last. Might as well take advantage of fast seeks during the copy. However, with sequential seeks as in a copy it would probably not matter.

    I too have a new system I built for my wife, and she has 8 SATA ports (ASUS P5QPRO) and have the PS that will power it, but I believe I did a careful lacing to get the extra plugs out of the way. But I may be OK. Will know Tuesday...or Wednesday as I am having my eyes checked Tuesday and will not be able to see for a while.

    I know Rich will think that I should be able to do this blind by now! :D
     
  20. Aug 10, 2009 #3340 of 10306
    lrhorer

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    'Exceedingly unlikely. The drive expansion is not a user space artifact, and any OS module which broke the partitioning of a multi-drive system would almost surely break TiVo's own systems.
     

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