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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Apr 22, 2009 #2801 of 10306
    bicker

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    So I have the replacement hard drive and I think I'm going to hold off installing it until Summer, because I'm concerned about losing cable for a few days in case I cannot get Comcast to re-pair the CableCARDs correctly over the telephone. I figure even with using TTG/TTCB, worst case would have us losing recordings just made (not enough time to TTG them [because they were "just" made]) as well recordings planned for the night I do the replacement and the night after that (and of course perhaps longer).

    What would mitigate this is if I can understand that if I have a problem with Comcast, I can just as readily reinstall the original primary drive and connect the eSATA drive, and be back to where I was before I did the replacement, i.e., with the CableCARDs paired properly. Is that a reasonable assumption? How much risk is there from swapping drives back and forth like that?

    My main inspiration for doing this replacement was lost recordings (the "partial" recording problem) allegedly due to the eSATA drive. However, since reseating the eSATA connection over the weekend, we haven't lost a recording yet. So I think dusting was the culprit in the problems we've had over the last month. As such, with the danger of losing recordings gone, the push to do the replacement is pretty small, now.

    Of course, if we lose another recording tonight, we'll be doing the replacement tomorrow. :)
     
  2. Apr 22, 2009 #2802 of 10306
    mchief

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    I suspect that is exactly what I did. Thanks. When all else fails - read the instructions.

    I will pull the drive and try again.
     
  3. Apr 22, 2009 #2803 of 10306
    richsadams

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    That's what I'd do. Just power down TiVo, power down and disconnect the eSATA drive, set them both on the shelf, pop the new drive in and fire TiVo up. Run Guided Setup and then call the cable company and have them pair the cable cards. Run Guided Setup again and you should be in business.

    If they can't or won't pair cable cards over the phone you can simply put the old drive back in, connect your eSATA drive fire it up, fire TiVo up and things will be back to square one.
     
  4. Apr 22, 2009 #2804 of 10306
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    1TB WD10EVCS is sitting on my desk. $106 at Amazon.

    The plan is to eliminate the "Officially Supported" :p eSATA My DVR Expander subsystem, processor, I/O, cable, etc as the cause for pixellation, partials, and general HD content disarray.

    Had enough.

    The wife is a lurker. Honey, please watch or transfer your stuff. OK? Thanks.:up:

    "The only constant left in the universe is upgrades."
     
  5. Apr 22, 2009 #2805 of 10306
    mchief

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    Now at 157 just as advertised. Thanks all - actually a simple process if you read the damn directions. That's what happens to software development weenies, we forget how to read.:rolleyes:
     
  6. Apr 22, 2009 #2806 of 10306
    richsadams

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    Read? Read what? What are you talking about? Kidding. :D

    Congratulations and welcome to the club! :up:
     
  7. Apr 23, 2009 #2807 of 10306
    hummingbird_206

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    Moving into my new house this weekend, woo hoo! So how do I move my S3 and My DVR Expander so as not to lose the recordings? Is there a certain power off sequence and then power on sequence or am I just SOL?
     
  8. Apr 23, 2009 #2808 of 10306
    greg_burns

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    I would go into the menu and tell it to restart. Right after the screen goes dark, pull the power on the Tivo. Then you can safely unplug the expander and disconnect.

    Don't plug your Tivo in again without first reconnecting or you will get a message asking if you want to divorce the expander.
     
  9. Apr 24, 2009 #2809 of 10306
    richsadams

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    Easy to do. The "offical" TiVo guidelines are here.

    Basically:

    - Unplug TiVo
    - Unplug your eSATA drive and disconnect from TiVo
    - Move
    - Plug your eSATA drive in and reconnect it to TiVo
    - Plug TiVo in

    That's it.
     
  10. Apr 24, 2009 #2810 of 10306
    hummingbird_206

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    Thanks for the instructions. I knew this was the place to get help!
     
  11. Apr 24, 2009 #2811 of 10306
    richsadams

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    New listing on Amazon still shows it's not available and there's nothing on TiVo's web site about it yet, but the Amazon price has already dropped to $167.70 w/free shipping on the new 1TB WD eSATA Drive. That's really not a bad deal for a turn-key/plug and pray option for folks looking for a fast way to increase their recording space on Series3, TiVo HD or HDXL boxes.
     
  12. Apr 24, 2009 #2812 of 10306
    noads123

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    I followed the TiVo rules and got an approved WD 500 GB eSata last year. New rules: 1 TB. So how do I keep my movies and upgrade? Is there a daisy chain eSata cable and a TiVo on-screen process programmed yet (hint). . .
     
  13. Apr 25, 2009 #2813 of 10306
    richsadams

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    Per this thread at the moment you're SOL. Unfortunate but it is what it is.

    If the recordings you want to keep aren't copy protected you can transfer them to your computer w/TiVo Desktop and then back again, but that's about it.
     
  14. Apr 28, 2009 #2814 of 10306
    hummingbird_206

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    I'm back up and running and all recordings still there, yippee! I have 6 eps of 24 and all season for Dollhouse that I haven't had time to view yet, so really glad those didn't disappear!

    Thanks again for the help.
     
  15. Apr 28, 2009 #2815 of 10306
    richsadams

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    Excellent news! Enjoy your new digs!
     
  16. Apr 28, 2009 #2816 of 10306
    phantomsax

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    So I just bought a Tivo HD last week and bought an Antec MX-1 and WD WD10EVCS to add 1TB of external storage. As a preface, I am a network admin by trade, so drives, cloning, etc. is nothing new to me.

    What doesn't make sense to me is why I need to open the case, and clone the internal drive to the external drive to make it all work. If there is partitioning or other data that needs to be on the external drive, couldn't I just get an image online and apply it to the external drive from my computer instead of getting it from the internal drive?

    I apologize if the answer is in an earlier post, but I tried searching but I didn't have the time to read all 2,815 posts in this thread.
     
  17. Apr 28, 2009 #2817 of 10306
    greg_burns

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    Great question. First though, if you are going to open your TivoHD just make the internal drive the 1TB one and shelf the original 160GB as a backup. That's my .02 on it.

    As far as the original question. I have no idea. Perhaps it is writing something to the internal drive identifying the external by its model #? Not sure.
     
  18. Apr 29, 2009 #2818 of 10306
    Dssturbo1

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    i agree with greg burns suggestion to just use the 1tb as the internal and keep the 160gb original as a backup.

    with the Tivo HD or HD XL the issue is that they will only accept the 500Gb or new just released 1Tb My DVR expanders as Tivo officially supported plug and play external drives.

    So when you want to use any other external drive you are not cloning the drives, you need to "marry" them so they are allowed to work together.
     
  19. Apr 29, 2009 #2819 of 10306
    phantomsax

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    I am coming to agree with you guys as well and just use the MX-1 for something else and drop the 1TB drive internally. I am sure I can find another use for the MX-1. I was just hoping to find some way to make the eSATA drive work without having to open the Tivo up and use WinMFS.

    I just hate to potentially nuke the warranty on something I haven't even had a full week yet. At least I can dust off my torx screwdrivers since I don't use them all that often.
     
  20. Apr 29, 2009 #2820 of 10306
    Dssturbo1

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    it's allowed on the S3 but Tivo got a little more proprietary with the HD and HD XL models.
     

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