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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Apr 13, 2009 #2741 of 10248
    bareyb

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    Awesome feeling isn't it? :D
     
  2. Apr 14, 2009 #2742 of 10248
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    no fair! i posted that in #2733 first!
     
  3. Apr 14, 2009 #2743 of 10248
    jlb

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    I received an e-mail from Newegg. With the promo code EMCLRMR23, this drive is $89.99 with free shipping. On Newegg's website, this drive is normally $99.99.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...L041409-_-InternalHardDrives-_-L0A-_-22136317

    I do not know if that promo code is unique to the email sent to me or if it is a universal promo code.
     
  4. Apr 14, 2009 #2744 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Nice...and I just tried the promo code and it works...so a few more bucks in the buyer's pocket! :up: Now don't get me reminiscing about paying $259 for one a couple years ago. :mad: ;)
     
  5. Apr 14, 2009 #2745 of 10248
    greg_burns

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    Dang! I just ordered a drive for a friend for her computer an hour ago from Newegg. :rolleyes:
     
  6. Apr 15, 2009 #2746 of 10248
    Strapped4Cash

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    I've read through most of this thread and have successfully upgraded my (2) S3's, (2) S2's and one S2DT, plus others using the instructions posted here.

    Thanks.

    I have been getting complaints from my wife that the S3 with a WD6400AAKS drive is too noisy. I was wondering whether anyone has tried using any SATA laptop drives which should run significantly quieter and lower power too.

    Any thoughts?
     
  7. Apr 15, 2009 #2747 of 10248
    bkdtv

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    If you get a WD10EVCS or WD10EVVS, I think your wife will be more than satisfied with the acoustics.

    You can see a comparison of your WD640AAKS to the WD20EADS (with AAM) in this SPR review, which has virtually identical acoustics to the WD10EVCS and WD10EVVS when in AAM mode.
     
  8. Apr 16, 2009 #2748 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Welcome to the forum and congrats on all of your upgrades! Wow! I'll second what bkdtv said.

    Also, did you try adjusting the automatic acoustic management (AAM) of the offending drive? It probably won't end up being as quiet as one of the recommended WD DVR/GP drives, but it should improve things a great deal. It's likely set at 256 for fast seek times which is good for a PC, but not needed with TiVo. You can adjust it down to 128 to make it less noisy if not acceptably quiet.

    You can use the Hitachi Feature Tool to make the adjustment. You'll just need to pull the drive, connect it to your PC, run the program and pop it back in. It won't affect anything but the seek noise (which is what your bride is hearing).

    Best of luck and let us know how things go!
     
  9. Apr 16, 2009 #2749 of 10248
    wdai

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    Has anyone used HITACHI Deskstar 7K1000.B 0A38016 HDT721010SLA360 for the internal upgrade for Tivo HD? Looks like this drive can be had for $70 on newegg AR and Coupon.
     
  10. Apr 16, 2009 #2750 of 10248
    Evilmonkee

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    I'm in the process of upgrading my TivoHD with the 1TB WDEVCS recommended drive.

    My original tivo drive(160gb) was pretty much full (HD+SD shows). How long can I expect the WinMFS process to take? I started at around 11am PST and it is now about 1:30pm or about 2.5 hours in.

    I am doing the retain all settings and shows MFScopy so I understand it can take some time, but MFS has appeared to be frozen with the progress bar at almost halfway with an ETA of 30min. It's been that way for almost a couple hours now but I'm still seeing the HDD activity light going.

    The instructions said that it was a 35-45min process. Does that take into account having a full HDD to transfer? Both (old/new) drives are connected to my PC via SATA.

    How long should I have to wait before "freaking out" and is it normal for the MFS screen to appear frozen for so long? Honestly, from the instructions, I didn't think it was going to take this long.

    Thanks.
     
  11. Apr 16, 2009 #2751 of 10248
    bkdtv

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    The Deskstar 7K1000 will work fine. Just be aware that it won't be as quiet as some of the other drives mentioned in this thread. You can find noise "rankings" in the first post of this thread.

    If you get that drive, you'll want to make be to use the Hitachi Feature Tools boot CD to enable AAM.
     
  12. Apr 16, 2009 #2752 of 10248
    drhankz

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    I believe that 45 min estimate is for an empty HD with JUST
    the TiVo software on it.

    Rich might chime in here - he knows all :up:
     
  13. Apr 16, 2009 #2753 of 10248
    bkdtv

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    That definitely sounds like an unusual amount of time for a SATA connection. My backup took about 20 minutes.

    Do you have security or antivirus software installed and running? Some antivirus software can significantly slow the upgrade process, because it processes the transfer to look for viruses.
     
  14. Apr 16, 2009 #2754 of 10248
    Evilmonkee

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    Just went back and re-read the instructions and I do see where I missed that the 35-45min was just for software/settings transfer. Then it indicated that it could be an hour or more for transferring shows.

    Assuming that I had a full ~160GBs to transfer, I wonder if I could calculate the time it should take. Anyone know what the data transfer rate between these two drives via SATA might be? ;)
     
  15. Apr 16, 2009 #2755 of 10248
    Evilmonkee

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    Thx for your reply bkdtv.

    I do have Avira AV running in the background.

    What would you recommend I do at this point? If I stop MFS and disable AV (and anything else running in the background I can) will it screw up the new drive at all? Will I be able to simply restart MFScopy without wiping the new drive?

    I didn't need to format the new drive before using MFS, right? The instructions didn't mention anything like that.
     
  16. Apr 16, 2009 #2756 of 10248
    bkdtv

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    If the upgrade does not appear to make any progress in the next 30 minutes, I would cancel it and restart the process with your Avira AV disabled.

    Prior to starting the process anew, you might also want to download and run Western Digital's Data LifeGuard utility to check the disk for errors. Some small percentage of drives are defective or damaged in shipping.

    Yes, you can simply restart the upgrade process without any extra step. WinMFS will overwrite the contents.

    Correct. You don't need to do anything else, although you might consider running the diagnostic utility mentioned above, just to be certain the drive was not damaged in shipping.
     
  17. Apr 16, 2009 #2757 of 10248
    Evilmonkee

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    Thanks for the advice.

    My free time is quickly diminishing so I may just try starting over again. Sounds like it is taking unusually long. My PC is no slouch either so there should be no bottleneck.

    I'll try the WD diag as well and hopefully get this working. Not as smooth as I was hoping the first time.

    Hopefully I can come back with some good news soon.
     
  18. Apr 16, 2009 #2758 of 10248
    greg_burns

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    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=6601995#post6601995
    May not be apples to apples, but my "dd" copy (linux copy command) of my 250GB drive to a 800GB took 70min, 60MB/s via sata to sata interface.
     
  19. Apr 16, 2009 #2759 of 10248
    richsadams

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    OMG! :eek: Are you kidding me? All he knows is enough to be dangerous. :p :) Plus don't forget, you get what you pay for. ;)
     
  20. Apr 17, 2009 #2760 of 10248
    fred2

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    I thought I would bring my FAP750 failure thread up to date.

    I opted for the quick "they ship me unit and then I ship back bad" for which I paid an expedite price but it wound up 1 week shipping rather than two days. Then, Seagate required an "in person" signature. I had to be home and sign - could not just sign the slip and leave it. Finally, the unit is a "rebuilt" unit and not a new one. I'd guess that they merely fixed someone else's exterior chassis/powersupply/whathaveyou and they will do the same with my (sniff) tivo recording ladened unit).

    It will be a storage unit for anything but my Tivo..........
     

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