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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Mar 7, 2009 #2601 of 10248
    greg_burns

    greg_burns Now in HD

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    Slower...
    I believe offloading your shows via Tivo2Go is really your only option...

    I remember this post from bkdtv just a little while back. (I had the same problem). Haven't taken the time to find this info in the FAQ myself, but I'm sure he's added it.

     
  2. Mar 7, 2009 #2602 of 10248
    jlib

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    Nice! Thanks for persisting in your investigations. How do you compare the head seek noise levels between the stock drive and the new one?
     
  3. Mar 7, 2009 #2603 of 10248
    bkdtv

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    It's in the FAQ now. ;)

    FAQ #4 under Internal Drive Upgrades.
     
  4. Mar 8, 2009 #2604 of 10248
    Dssturbo1

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    very quiet so far. I can barely hear the fan noise from the S3 but nothing from the hard drive.

    My other S3 has the stock drive plus eSata encliosure connected and there is head seek noise from the 750Gb Seagate in the enclosure sometimes. When i get programs transferred off from it, I probably will put a 1.5Tb in it too. Quieter plus alot cleaner setup with no enclosure, no power cord and no eSata cable connection.
     
  5. Mar 8, 2009 #2605 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Let me add my congrats and thanks for the info! :up:
     
  6. Mar 8, 2009 #2606 of 10248
    vandozza

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    Hi all,

    I'm a new Tivo HD user from Australia, and have been reading (most) of this long thread with great interest.

    I'd like to upgrade the internal HDD from 160GB to 1TB using a WD drive.

    I understand that the recommended drive is the WD EVCS.

    Looking on the WD site, I can only find the WD EVVS model.

    Searching for a drive on Australian online computer stores, I can only find the WD EVCS.

    So I guess the question is, what's the difference between the EVVS and the EVCS? (I have searched these forums, and googled, but the only suggestion that I found was that the EVVS is 5400 rpm, while the EVCS is 7200 rpm. Is this correct?)

    Thanks!
     
  7. Mar 8, 2009 #2607 of 10248
    bkdtv

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    The EVCS is just the EVVS with twice the cache (16MB vs 8MB).

    Western Digital updated their site so it only mentions the WD10EVVS.
     
  8. Mar 8, 2009 #2608 of 10248
    steinercat

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    mr. unnatural,

    where did you order the Fantom with the EVCS from?

    thanks for the info!
     
  9. Mar 8, 2009 #2609 of 10248
    mr.unnatural

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    I posted this info previously:

     
  10. Mar 8, 2009 #2610 of 10248
    richsadams

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    samjemb

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  12. Mar 8, 2009 #2612 of 10248
    bkdtv

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    Recordings are downloaded as is, at 100% original quality, but will be somewhat smaller on your PC because of how the TiVo reports sizes. The TiVo INFO screen (and TiVo Desktop) reports recording sizes based on 1,000,000,000 bytes per gigabyte. But there are actually 1,073,741,824 bytes per gigabyte. Hence, the TiVo overstates file sizes by about 7%.

    As far as playback quality, that can vary substantially depending on the codecs / filters you have installed on your PC. Some codecs essentially provide only 540p resolution on 1080i content, whereas other codecs are able to provide closer to 1080p resolution with telecine. Even with the same codecs installed, playback quality can vary by video card.
     
  13. Mar 9, 2009 #2613 of 10248
    vandozza

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    Just so I'm clear on this -
    EVCS - 16mb cache
    EVVS - 8mb cache

    Why is their no more mention of the EVCS on the WD site? It seems like the EVCS would be the "better" drive, d/t the larger cache?
     
  14. Mar 9, 2009 #2614 of 10248
    richsadams

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    The OEM hard drives in TiVo Series3's and TiVo HD's have a miniscule 2MB of cache That used to be enough for Series1's and Series2's that dealt only with SD recordings. However it may well be that HD programming as well as high data throughput via broadband etc. and the associated I/O demands on the Series3 and TiVo HD's may be taking their toll. I've long speculated that the OEM hard drive's tiny cache may be inadequate for the job and responsible for some of the continuing issues people are having. These problems are very often remedied by replacing the OEM drive with one having 8+MB of cache. (AFAIK you can't buy a drive with <8MB of cache any more.)

    That said, most of the knowledgeable folks here have repeatedly said (and I trust their expertise) that although it may be important to other applications, due to their architecture TiVo Series3's and TiVo HD/HDXL's cannot take advantage of more than 8MB (possibly less) of cache. So either drive should work fine.
     
  15. Mar 9, 2009 #2615 of 10248
    vandozza

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    Thanks alot for that clarification.

    Looks like I'll be upgrading to an EVCS over the next few weeks! :)
     
  16. Mar 10, 2009 #2616 of 10248
    crazzeto

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    so I've thought it over, I think I'm going to go for it... what the hay, my motherboard is (finally) being RMAed so I'll have my desktop again. Why not void my warentee and bless my tivo with 1TB? lol
     
  17. Mar 10, 2009 #2617 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Live dangerously I always say. ;)
     
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    richsadams

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    ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    I had a 15&#37; coupon when I got mine back then.
     
  20. Mar 11, 2009 #2620 of 10248
    richsadams

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    A good deal at the time!
     

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