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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Jan 6, 2009 #2221 of 10308
    richsadams

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    Agreed. I've seen the same activity on stock TiVo's. It's aggravating but not much you can do about it.
     
  2. Jan 6, 2009 #2222 of 10308
    Mindflux

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    That could very well be (I seem to remember the video output changing to 4:3 when this occurred). What about the video 'lag' while viewing a recorded program? I don't remember either of these two 'problems' occurring with the stock drive in the unit.
     
  3. Jan 6, 2009 #2223 of 10308
    bkdtv

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    Video lag outside a cable company commercial with different encoding parameters?

    I haven't heard of that anywhere. I suppose it could have been a problem with the broadcast.
     
  4. Jan 6, 2009 #2224 of 10308
    Mindflux

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    Yeah I was watching a recording of "Intervention".. and they do these cut in/cut out scenes where some wording swoops in via a blur effect. You could see the blur start, then a moment later it finally 'focused' in. Later on in the show when they did another one it was very precise and timely (like I've come to expect from how they do it on this show).
     
  5. Jan 6, 2009 #2225 of 10308
    zEli173

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    Any new words on plans for a 1TB My DVR Expander from Western Digital? The sticky mentions the possibility that it will appear in early 2009.
     
  6. Jan 6, 2009 #2226 of 10308
    Mindflux

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    I don't think they meant THIS early.
    :D
     
  7. Jan 6, 2009 #2227 of 10308
    bkdtv

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    Nothing on that front yet. That information is six months old, and they originally said 2H 2008. For all we know, it could be 2H 2009.
     
  8. Jan 6, 2009 #2228 of 10308
    bkdtv

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    Over on the AVS forum, it was established that some cable providers recompress their HD on the fly to save bandwidth, and sometimes frames are skipped on intense scenes with lots of movement. This bandwidth requirements of the other two channels on the same mux is a factor (bandwidth is allocated dynamically among all three channels on a QAM, depending on content complexity) .
     
  9. Jan 6, 2009 #2229 of 10308
    zEli173

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    It's been six days already! :D

    I'm just trying to figure out if I want to deal with replacing the internal drive of my TiVoHD or wait for a 1TB plug and play option. Obtaining a pair of SATA > USB cables seems like it will add a good deal of expense and hassle.
     
  10. Jan 6, 2009 #2230 of 10308
    Mindflux

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    I just ended up using the internal SATA ports on my work PC. :D

    You could also do it with a single SATA > USB cable, though I don't think you can do a full backup that way? You could do a truncated and then unhook the drive and plug the new drive in and restore. That'll cut your parts costs down some if you don't mind losing programming.
     
  11. Jan 6, 2009 #2231 of 10308
    richsadams

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    Trust me, the cost of a SATA/USB adapter ($19?), a 1TB bare drive ($99?) and a an hour or so on a Saturday afternoon will look really attractive when everyone see's the price of a 1TB My DVR Expander (if they come to pass).

    The 500GB My DVR Expander started at $209 and could only be purchased from TiVo or Best Buy. They're still about $120. A DIY is half that. I shudder to think what a new 1TB model will retail for. I'm sure it will satisfy those that can't do more than plug and pray, but it won't be cheap.

    A DIY internal upgrade is the way to go IMHO. Cheaper, more reliable and one less fail point. Not to mention the satisfaction of being able to brag about your technical expertise to your closest friends. YMMV :)
     
  12. Jan 6, 2009 #2232 of 10308
    zEli173

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    OK, I'm convinced. And I'm definitely not concerned with transfering my recordings since my TiVo is new. I'll be doing the upgrade on a Dell Laptop, does that hardware provide a means sans usb cable? If not, What exactly are the steps for doing the upgrade with only one cable?

    Someone please point me to a 1TB drive for $99 and (if necessary) a cable for $19.
     
  13. Jan 6, 2009 #2233 of 10308
    talkingtiki

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    $24 bucks, but this one actually works. I have one.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812232002

    1TB WD Hard Drive. $99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136293
     
  14. Jan 6, 2009 #2234 of 10308
    trussrules

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    I wouldn't recommend putting a refurbished drive in your TiVo. The WD10EVCS is $110 at buy.com right now (just go to buy.com and search for WD10EVCS). They even have free shipping right now.
     
  15. Jan 6, 2009 #2235 of 10308
    richsadams

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    You'll need to use a SATA/USB adapter with your Dell laptop. All of the info you need is on the first post of this thread. Basically you'll download winMFS to the laptop, connect your TiVo drive, run winMFS, copy the image then connect your new drive and copy the TiVo image to it. There are a couple of more steps, but that's it in a nutshell.

    Sound advice. MacMall has a brand new WD10EACS for $99.99 w/free shipping. Excellent customer service to boot. :up:

    I used one of these SATA/USB Adapters ($19.99) once and it worked fine. But you'd need to spend another $5 to get free shipping.

    Happy upgrading!
     
  16. Jan 6, 2009 #2236 of 10308
    zEli173

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    OK, cruised through the most recent 20 pages or so and I think I've got things straight. Please correct any of the following understandings:

    Seems like the drive of choice at the moment for the TiVoHD is the WD10EACS. As I understand it, after adjusting the audio settings there are no functional differences between the EACS and the ECVS or EVVS when inside a TiVo. Given that the EACS seems to be the lowest cost, it's the best bet. The WD10000CSRTL is the retail version of the EACS but likely only available at a higher version.

    Seagate's newish 1.5 TB drive sounds nice in theory. but hasn't been reliably tested in TiVo's yet. Further, partition issues mean one can't even take advantage of the entire 1.5 TB's so there's less additional storage than it would seem on the surface. Other Seagate models are well respected for their reliability but not as quiet as the WD drives.

    [Edited to delete already answered question].
     
  17. Jan 7, 2009 #2237 of 10308
    zEli173

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    Thanks for all the input. I wound up purchasing the 10EVCS from Buy.com. Free shipping at MacMall has strings attached so the price on the EVCS at Buy.com was the same after a $5 coupon. I already had things in my cart at Amazon, so no problem qualifying for free shipping. I added in this Torx screw driver, maybe good for those looking for a very cheap option.

    I'll report back in a week when it's time to upgrade.
     
  18. Jan 7, 2009 #2238 of 10308
    richsadams

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    Good work...let us know how it goes.

    BTW, looks like you got the last Torx wrench...all sold out now. But they can be found at most any auto parts store, Sears, etc.
     
  19. Jan 7, 2009 #2239 of 10308
    Softail95

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    Downers...
    Home Depot sells a nice little versatile one for about $8 IIRC. The Husky HD-74502. It's a little precision Torx driver with 4 interchangeable, double-ended tips in sizes T4, T5, T6, T7, T8, T9, T10 and T15 tips. It has come in very handy for all TiVo work and for other things like disassembling cell phones and other small electronics. Guaranteed forever. I saw some on Ebay too, in case you don't have a HD nearby.
     
  20. Jan 7, 2009 #2240 of 10308
    talkingtiki

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    DER, sorry I didn't realize that was a refurb. My bad. I wouldn't use one either. Oh well Rich has got him straight.
     

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