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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Dec 30, 2008 #2161 of 10248
    jlib

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    All of those hardware based (no drivers required) RAIDs should work but you would be a pioneer with that particular one. Note that that is not a particularly attractive price (similar items are ~$60) and I get a sense it has a really loud fan. The kind of drives you are most likely to put in it the (WD GreenPower series) are not particularly hot. Since it has a fan switch it should be easy to add a fan speed controller to adjust the noise appropriately for the cooling needed (you always wanted an excuse to get a passive infrared thermometer, right?)

    If you have a TiVo HD the connection is trivial because the eSATA port on the TiVo can be easily rerouted to the internal drive's SATA port on the mainboard. The RAID 1 then appears as the internal drive to the TiVO. If you have a TiVo S3 ping me and I will point you to an old thread that shows how to do the connection.
     
  2. Dec 30, 2008 #2162 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Congrats! :up:
     
  3. Dec 31, 2008 #2163 of 10248
    amarand

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    Well, it looks like the WD10EACS is working just fine in the TiVo at the moment. No GSOD or anything, and it appears that I have a huge amount of storage space.

    [​IMG]

    Thanks everyone! Here's hoping for a Happy TiVo HD New Year. :D
     
  4. Dec 31, 2008 #2164 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Glad to hear that your TiVo HD is feeling fat and happy! Nice work. Happy New Year! :)
     
  5. Dec 31, 2008 #2165 of 10248
    chanster

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    I have two TIVO HD's. One was upgraded with 1 TB, the other has a stock hard drive. The stock one is on a year pre-paid service. I may not continue with the service after this year.

    My question is this: If I upgrade the stock and transfer a bunch of movies on there from my main TIVO, will I still be able to access the movies after the TIVO service is stopped - i.e. could I use the TIVO box as a movie only box?

    Thanks
     
  6. Dec 31, 2008 #2166 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Yes.
     
  7. Dec 31, 2008 #2167 of 10248
    chales007

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    I have a Tivo HD machine. It seems to me that to expand the HD of this type of box I need to marry the current drive in my tivo with the new drive that I have purchased.

    Otherwise I could go with the dvr expander that Tivo recommends.

    Has anyone looked into how the Tivo recognizes the recommended DVR Expander?

    To me the solution is to format the drive and make it look like the supported DVR expander so you can just plug any drive into the back of your Tivo HD.

    any thoughts?
     
  8. Dec 31, 2008 #2168 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Nice thought and were it only that simple many of us would have done that over a year ago. A full reading of the first post on this thread is probably in order.

    That said and to answer your question TiVo recognizes eSATA drives by the model number. Only the "approved" WD My DVR Expander (by hard drive model number) is recognized by TiVo HD's for plug and play installs based on proprietary software. The same is not true for TiVo Series3's.

    You are correct, to add any other expansion drive to the TiVo HD the external drive has to be "married" to the internal drive. The common recommendation is to simply upgrade the miniscule OEM drive since it has to be pulled anyway and is not worth saving except as a backup.
     
  9. Jan 1, 2009 #2169 of 10248
    DeepUnder

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    hello, new here

    i have updated my Aussie Version Tivo HD to 1TB using a WD10EVCS harddrive.

    All i get is 142 Hrs HD content and 384 hrs of SD content. How did you get a 1000+ hours of SD content.

    I used WinMfs 9.3e

    Thanks Great forum
     
  10. Jan 1, 2009 #2170 of 10248
    pdxsam

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    Also add in that if you remove the drive from the enclosure you lose the drive warranty also. You can't go to the website and get an RMA. When you put in the serial number of the drive it will come back to be an OEM drive and you'll be sent back to the manufacturer of the enclosure.
     
  11. Jan 2, 2009 #2171 of 10248
    richsadams

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    That's what I meant...but thanks for the clarification. :up:
     
  12. Jan 2, 2009 #2172 of 10248
    c3

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    Do we know this for sure? Drives inside Cavalry units have full 3-year warranty from WD (based on my past purchases, not lately).
     
  13. Jan 2, 2009 #2173 of 10248
    richsadams

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    I had this experience once and Fantom drives have a hologram seal on their case. It seems one would be hard pressed to make a claim. For a few bucks I've no idea why anyone would want to risk it, but if that's not a concern, then...
     
  14. Jan 2, 2009 #2174 of 10248
    rhitee05

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    Has anyone tried using one of the newer Caviar Green WD10EADS drives as an internal upgrade? I'm planning to put a 1TB drive inside my TivoHD and was looking at the newer drive. The review I read here shows slightly better performance (not that it really matters for TiVo) and lower power consumption. The new drive is going for $120 at newegg, about $10 more than the older model.
     
  15. Jan 2, 2009 #2175 of 10248
    c3

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    The latest version of WD10EACS has 3 platters, same as WD10EADS, so power consumption should be the same, unless you get the older 4-platter WD10EACS. The difference is 16MB versus 32MB cache.
     
  16. Jan 2, 2009 #2176 of 10248
    pdxsam

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    Sorry I didn't quite get what you said :)
     
  17. Jan 2, 2009 #2177 of 10248
    rdodolak

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    My WD10EVCS drive arrived today and I just finished upgrading a TiVo HD. The WinMFS process went smooth however I did initially encounter an hiccup with the Hitachi Feature Tool.

    The tool initially wouldn't recognize any of my HDs and it turned out I needed to turn off my Intel RAID controller before it would recognize them. I tried performing a search to see if the Western Digital WD10EVCS came from the factory with AAM enabled, so that I could skip this step, but turned up with no relevant results. Turns out the drive is already set at the factory with AAM enabled and a value of 128.

    The upgraded TiVo is working great and the first thing I noticed is that the menu responses in TiVo Central are much faster! :up: However, I had to execute the "Connect to Tivo service now" function again before I could reaccess the Video on Demand section.
     
  18. Jan 2, 2009 #2178 of 10248
    jlib

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    Yes, the WD10EVCS is intended for use as a DVR drive so they already detune it at the factory. Only the regular retail desktop computer type drives need to be reset.
     
  19. Jan 3, 2009 #2179 of 10248
    dxcoded

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    Hi I don't post here often but I am wanting to upgrade my tivo hd with a 1tb wd drive. My question is this....

    Can I buy 2 antec mx-1 and use these to upgrade and connect to windows xp. I am a mac user and have access to a windows xp laptop and I want to make sure that I can use this before I order these enclosures.

    Second question is it really this easy to use winmfs to do upgrade with limited knowledge of windows xp?

    thanks in advance for answers

    eric
     
  20. Jan 4, 2009 #2180 of 10248
    txporter

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    Yes, the Antec MX-1 will work fine. Did you read the FAQ at the beginning of this thread? If you have a stock tivohd, you should consider using the 1TB drive to upgrade the internal drive. You will have to pull it apart anyhow if you intend to add any esata drive other than the official expander. Look through the FAQ at the head of this thread and see if there are any questions that you have left unanswered.

    Jason
     

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