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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Dec 29, 2008 #2141 of 10248
    spellow

    spellow Damn! Winters coming

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    I'm just looking for the best plug and play ESATA solution for my T3...1TB is more than enough space for me.

    So I'm just looking to make sure this is a good solution or find out if there is a better external ESATA drive than this one...
     
  2. Dec 29, 2008 #2142 of 10248
    Mindflux

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    I'd like to see a 'bare' WD10EACS for 89 bucks. :D The chances of the drive in this failing is about 'as good as any'. Voiding the warranty on it by removing it from the chassis isn't a big deal, IMHO. If it did fail within a year or even two, by then 1TB drives will probably be in the 60 dollar price point. They're not far from that as it is.
     
  3. Dec 29, 2008 #2143 of 10248
    amarand

    amarand OpenSourceEvangelist

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    Finally got my CableCARDs working (two singles...the multicard never worked properly...working with TiVo "Level 2" over the next week or two to see if I can't resolve that, the cable guy was nice enough to leave the multi behind for me to test with) with the TiVo HD, which is nice. Re-ran Guided Setup as mentioned, and it's chugging along. What is THE benchmark thing that I'm looking for on the TiVo to see if it's done with its processing? I want to start the upgrade as soon as possible, as I'm working from home today, but I don't want to preempt the processing that it does. I'm at that point where I'm 30 to 45 minutes after it says "You have one week worth of data." Are we talking an hour or two, or...? But more importantly, it'll be nice to know where to look to see if it's working on it, or if it's done.

    Thanks again!
     
  4. Dec 29, 2008 #2144 of 10248
    Fofer

    Fofer XenForo Rocks! TCF Club

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    Cool, thanks for the info. The $90 price sure is attractive. I'm currently running a Series 3 with an internally upgraded drive (750 GB.) This drive will let me add on more storage with MFSADD. I plan to do this in the next few weeks and will let you know how it goes!
     
  5. Dec 29, 2008 #2145 of 10248
    richsadams

    richsadams Active Member

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    That 'otta give you enough room to breath for a while! ;)
     
  6. Dec 29, 2008 #2146 of 10248
    falc122727

    falc122727 Member

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    What a pleasure using winmfs. I remember how time consuming and confusing it was the first time I added 2 drives to my Series 1s. I upgraded my TiVoHD with a WD10EACS in about 15 minutes, and now show 157 hrs of HD. If only I could hack this sucker without a Prom mod.

    TiVo let me transfer the lifetime from a Series 1 for free, so factoring in the cost of the hardrive, I now have a TiVoHD XL with lifetime service for less than $300. Sweet deal!

    Thanks for all the helpful posts on this site and thanks to Spike for winmfs.
     
  7. Dec 29, 2008 #2147 of 10248
    dmbpj

    dmbpj New Member

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    I just got a Tivo HD for Xmas and I have the cable guy coming out to put in my M-Card this Friday and I was wondering if it is best for me to hook up the tivo and update all the software before he gets here?

    Thanks.
     
  8. Dec 29, 2008 #2148 of 10248
    Mindflux

    Mindflux TiVowned

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    Get it as up to date as you possibly can. Around here the installers are required to wait until you get the cable channels you are supposed to get. They've mentioned to me in the past that if they get a user with a TiVo that has done no pre-cable-card setup/config that they are charging them a fee to get it all set up since it takes considerably longer.
     
  9. Dec 29, 2008 #2149 of 10248
    ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    Hook it up, and connect to tivo service for about 5 times to get up to v11 update; also, do guided setup with your current cable and/or antenna. After cable cards installed run guided setup again.

    v9.x and later work better on cable cards.
     
  10. Dec 29, 2008 #2150 of 10248
    dmbpj

    dmbpj New Member

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    Thanks for your answers
     
  11. Dec 29, 2008 #2151 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Well...let's do the math...

    Fantom External Hard Drive $129.99. Price reduced to $89.99 after receipt of $40 mail-in rebate check.

    Bare WD10EACS $99.99 w/free shipping. (No mail-in rebate required.)

    Break open the Fantom = No warranty day one.

    Bare drive = Full 3 year replacement warranty (prorated thereafter).​

    Peace of mind? Priceless. (Well, okay, $10 immediately as opposed to spending $30 more and waiting for a rebate check to show up three months later.) :D
     
  12. Dec 29, 2008 #2152 of 10248
    Fofer

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    What's the math if you plan to use the Fantom externally and therefore, don't need to break open the case?
     
  13. Dec 29, 2008 #2153 of 10248
    richsadams

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    See above...$129.99, send in the $40 rebate form and hope the check shows up. As long as it does, it's a good deal. :up:

    BTW, I've purchased from MacMall a number of times and they've always given great service. (Never had to send in for a rebate though, but I see no reason that there would be a problem.)
     
  14. Dec 29, 2008 #2154 of 10248
    Mindflux

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    Ok lets not bother to cover what an enclosure might cost if you wanted to use it after removing the WD10EACS. I could still easily stick a different drive in it and use it on a PC. I don't think it's a "break it open" situation, I'm sure it comes apart with a twist of a few screws.
     
  15. Dec 29, 2008 #2155 of 10248
    richsadams

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    All Fantom enclosures have a holographic seal. If your time is worth <$10, and you don't mind paying an extra $30 until the rebate check shows up and need a bare drive without a warranty...go for it! 'Nuff said.
     
  16. Dec 30, 2008 #2156 of 10248
    ChickenCheese

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    I have gift cards to Best Buy and Amazon. Is there a good hard drive on there to upgrade a Series 3? I've been looking through the thread and I'm overwhelmed by all the model numbers. :eek:

    Edit to add: Or maybe I should just go with the Fantom external drive mentioned above. That way I won't have to open my TiVo.
     
  17. Dec 30, 2008 #2157 of 10248
    dmbpj

    dmbpj New Member

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    The Western Digital AV-GP green drives seem to work well and come in 500GB, 750GB, and 1TB.

    I just bought the 750GB for my Tivo HD.

    http://www.wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=388
     
  18. Dec 30, 2008 #2158 of 10248
    richsadams

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    The link to the drive, a Western Digital AV/GP WD10EVCS is fine for both Series3's and TiVo HD's. However the more common Western Digital GP/"green" drives found in the wild (mostly at B&M stores) are the WD10EACS GP series.

    Just to clarify, the Western Digital WD10EACS will NOT work as an internal upgrade for Series3's due to a soft reboot problem. It does work with TiVo HD's.

    The recommended WD10EVCS is a dedicated DVR drive and will work as an internal upgrade for Series3's and TiVo HD's.

    Unfortunately Best Buy doesn't sell either drive. It looks like the best price for the WD10EVCS at the moment is at buy.com.

    Other recommended drives (Hitachi, etc.) can be found on the first post of this thread...important reading for anyone wanting to add an eSATA drive or upgrade an internal drive on their TiVo.
     
  19. Dec 30, 2008 #2159 of 10248
    dmbpj

    dmbpj New Member

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    Thanks for clarifying
     
  20. Dec 30, 2008 #2160 of 10248
    talkingtiki

    talkingtiki New Member

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    Hey guys. Just completed a Series 3 internal upgrade using a WD10EVCS. It took about an hour from start to finish using the guide here and WinMFS and could not have been easier.

    Thanks for the thread. I encourage everyone to do this.
     

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