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Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Dec 6, 2008 #2021 of 10248
    bkdtv

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    The v11 software changed the calculation for estimating storage space. You should see 157 HD estimated hours with a 1TB drive under v11.
     
  2. Dec 6, 2008 #2022 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Glad to hear things are working. After v11.0 our Series3 also shows 157HD/1367SD.
     
  3. Dec 6, 2008 #2023 of 10248
    rgr

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    Thanks bkdtv and richsadams! While it was wierd having the new drive startup with the service update, it's good to know I didn't trash a partition.
     
  4. Dec 6, 2008 #2024 of 10248
    ccrider2

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    Odd coincidence also:
    About a month ago I updated my S3 with a 1TB Seagate NCQ Barracuda 7200.11 Model ST31000340AS. I assumed everything went well, booted up, ran fine...I'm a happy camper....Yada Yada! But I never tried to warm boot it. Well, yesterday I finally did and I got the same notice of an impending software update. As prompted (an hour or more) it took forever to come back up. Man I was sweating bullets! :eek: :eek: :eek:
    Do you suppose this was just a fluke, or do service updates need a manual reboot to start the install process? I'm on a UPS, so I almost never cycle the power.

    Perhaps, somewhat like Windows, an occasionally warm boot, "it's a good thing" :rolleyes: :rolleyes: ...........thoughts?

    Chris
     
  5. Dec 6, 2008 #2025 of 10248
    husky55

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    I just received the new 11.0 Fall Update software. It did not require a manual reboot.

    However, a manual reboot through Tivo menu will force a firmware update before the scheduled time.
     
  6. Dec 6, 2008 #2026 of 10248
    ccrider2

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    Aah, Perhaps that's what happened.

    Chris
     
  7. Dec 6, 2008 #2027 of 10248
    Teeps

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    Another month later; the 1TB Fantom Drive is still :up: working, though it's much louder now than when it was empty, it really thumps when its reading & writing. The thumping can be easily heard when the room is quiet, when TiVo is recording two channels or doing house keeping(?). The sound of the read/write mechanism can be heard, even with the cabinet doors (glass) closed.

    I can live with the extra noise... for now.
     
  8. Dec 7, 2008 #2028 of 10248
    jlib

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    Is that the one with the WD10EACS inside? You can still run Hitachi Feature Tool to check and set the AAM acoustic settings without affecting the contents of the drive. You want them as low as they will go. Just remove the drive and attach it to a SATA port on a PC.
     
  9. Dec 7, 2008 #2029 of 10248
    jlib

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    Just a fluke. If you had looked at your status page it would have said something like "restart pending" which it would have done in the wee hours had you not inadvertently intervened.
     
  10. Dec 7, 2008 #2030 of 10248
    alyssa

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    I"m looking to swap out my factory internal(250gb) in my living room S3 with a 1T HD without losing any of the recordings from the internal or the married 750 eSATA.

    I've used WinMSF to upgrade my internal HD in my bedroom S3. Is MFSLive boot CD almost as easy as WinMSF? In other words, is MFSLive user friendly? Is there step by step instructions listed somewhere?
     
  11. Dec 7, 2008 #2031 of 10248
    ccrider2

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    Thanks!

    I was totally off-the-wall waiting for my S3 to reboot! :eek::eek::eek:

    Chris
     
  12. Dec 7, 2008 #2032 of 10248
    greg_burns

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    There is an online tool that will tell you what commands to type.

    http://www.mfslive.org/cgen.php
     
  13. Dec 7, 2008 #2033 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Just as a datapoint, on another thread a one-post member claimed that the newer WD10EACS-00D6B1 worked successfully as an internal upgrade in his Series3. He was asked to try a soft reboot (which is where the problem lies with those drives) to confirm that it would work but never came back.

    A more thoughtful forum member did confirm on this post that the newer WD10EACS-00D6B1 still does NOT work as an internal hard drive upgrade in a Series3 after it failed to reboot after the latest TiVo software update. Disappointing but good to know. Hopefully others (no matter how well meaning) will not post inaccurate information which could cause others grief down the road.

    Again that particular drive will work as an internal hard drive upgrade with TiVo HD's and HDXL's or as an eSATA drive on all three models, just not internally with S3's.

    The WD10EVCS is a better bet these days as it will work internally or as an expansion drive for all TiVo's.
     
  14. Dec 8, 2008 #2034 of 10248
    Majik45

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    I performed an internal hard drive upgrade on Friday night/Saturday morning with the WD10EVCS 1TB hard drive. It was extremely simple with the instructions in this forumn. Thanks to all as now we have plenty of room on the Tivo to go on vacation for a week and not worry about missing shows.
     
  15. Dec 8, 2008 #2035 of 10248
    richsadams

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    Nice. Enjoy! :up:
     
  16. Dec 8, 2008 #2036 of 10248
    pdxsam

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    Having upgraded a Series 1 several times years ago I was wondering how easy it would be to upgrade my new HD. 40 minutes from start to finish ( no recordings on the drive). That includes opening the Tivo, pulling the drive, backing it up, restoring it, marrying it to my external sata and putting it all back together. It couldn't have been easier.

    One thing I found when upgrading, the Hitachi Software wouldn't find my drive unless it was in Drive 0 on the sata bus. Any other port I had it plugged into it was ignored.

    Fios install on Sunday and I'm good to go. Let's hope the installer has an M card for me. :)
     
  17. Dec 8, 2008 #2037 of 10248
    The Swami

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    looks like my recording hours have changed as well. My Series3 just got the 11.0 software downloaded and installed last night. My Cinemastar 1TB drive used to read the expected 165/1561 storage variable max, now it's magically increased to 179/1561. 14 'free' hours of HD! lol
     
  18. Dec 8, 2008 #2038 of 10248
    alyssa

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    Thanks Greg & Rich

    The WD10EVCS seems to be on sale at macmall for $130

    The link did produce a command line. I was a little confused tho. Should I enter my married eSATA drive as "B" or just leave it blank?

    However there is a thread on MSFLive to which I posted. Spike indicated there wasn't a way to upgrade the internal with and eSATA and preserve the recordings.
    I also asked Spike if there was a guesstimate of an ETA for the software. His response was 'this year or maybe next'
    I didn't quite have the courage to ask if he meant in the next few weeks...;)

    eta;
    This all may be moot if the Netflix library is deep enough.
     
  19. Dec 10, 2008 #2039 of 10248
    jsinga

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    Hi,
    Will this drive work as an internal upgrade in an S3?
    Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000 1000GB Hard Drive - 7200RPM, 32MB, Serial ATA-300, OEM
    It's $79 after rebate at Tiger Direct.

    JS
     
  20. Dec 10, 2008 #2040 of 10248
    bareyb

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    That's an awesome Hard Drive. One of the best. I'm using two of them in my Series 3's right now (well one Cinemastar but basically the same thing) The only problem with it usually is the price. THAT is an amazing price. Got a direct link?
     

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