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Doctor Who "The Power of Three" 9/22/12

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by zordude, Sep 23, 2012.

  1. kimsan

    kimsan underling

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    Maybe the "Long Goodbye" is his series arc this time;) The soonest we lose Amy the better IMO.

    Side thought, I *miss* the oldschool 6 ep (or so) story and find these essentially stand-alone episodes rushed.
     
  2. pteronaut

    pteronaut Killer of Threads

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    Bear in mind, that these stand alone episodes are twice the length of a 1963-89 episode and there were many two episode stories in the latter half of that run.
     
  3. danterner

    danterner Not it!

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    This sums it up for me very nicely.

    I love the concept of The Doctor-as-tourguide, sharing the universe with everyman companions who are slackjawed at its wonders and/or enthralled with the adventure of it all. Being with the Doctor should be a grand adventure. For Amy and Rory it's somehow become more of a slog. They shouldn't want to spend time at home between adventures -- that they do, and the emphasis that there is a "Pond Life" apart from the Doctor, seems to strip some of the lustre off of what should be a whirlwind of an experience and it has served to make me eager for the departure of characters I used to love. I'm ready for them to go, so that the Doctor can move on and so the show can once again focus on its true protagonist.

    Give me Rory's Dad as a companion any day. Or Wilfred Mott. Or bring back Donna. Give me someone who will appreciate the adventure they are handed. I'm tired of having a companion who is ambivalent at best about spending time away from the mundane.
     
  4. TonyD79

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    That is part of the point. The doctor's companions were always loners. If they met someone, they left. The Ponds were different. A family. They are the flip side of Peter Pan.
     
  5. Dawghows

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    This, and I think it's been interesting to see this perspective of gradual change. Anything you do often enough --even time travel, apparently -- will eventually become familiar and somewhat routine, regardless of how exciting it may have seemed at the start. It may well not be the most dramatically fun thing to watch, and I agree it's time to move past it, but I like that we've seen this arc with the Ponds.
     
  6. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    I agree that it's an interesting approach to take. But again, it feels like Moffat has gotten obsessed with the Ponds and their Long Goodbye, and forgotten to make a Doctor Who show. A lot of the Doctor stuff has really been perfunctory this season.

    A better writer (which is to say, Moffat doing the kind of work he usually does) would have worked the Pond Farewell theme into a Doctor Who season, instead of having a Pond season with the Doctor spending a lot of time gazing wistfully at Amy and looking depressed or confused. I really suspect that in some deep corner of Moffat's mind, this show has turned into Pond Life, guest-starring that lovable rascal, the Doctor. I'm well past ready for Pond Life to end and Doctor Who to resume.
     
  7. Dawghows

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    No argument with anything you've said, and I'm sure your sentiments are shared by most fans. As I say, I'm ready to move on as well. However, as I've mentioned in other threads, my wife and I have watched the entire 2005+ "reboot" since January, so the overall Pond arc doesn't seem nearly as long to us as it must to long term viewers. We haven't spent as much real-world time with them as you have, waiting around for new seasons. That makes a big difference, too.
     
  8. JohnB1000

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    Has anyone heard, or thought about, the theories that this season is not really being shown in timeline order.

    One of the podcasts has some evidence that Pond Life occurs after the episodes we are seeing, and for example Asylum occurs, in true timeline, later than the episodes that came after it. It's partly circumstantial, for example the dates in the Power of Three episode and also based on comments made in episodes, for example in ep 2 or 3 The Doctor asks Rory about leaving his watch in Henry The 8th's chamber, which we only saw in this episode.
     
  9. robojerk

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    In A Town Called Mercy, the Doctor tells Rory “…well, that’s what you said when you left your phone charger in Henry the VIII’s en suite!”

    Rory, Amy and the Doctor were wearing the same clothes in A Town Called Mercy and The Power of Three (after they leave their party for 7 weeks, when they’re under the bed and we see Rory’s phone charger).
     
  10. JohnB1000

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    Wearing the same clothes when ? When they got back or when they left ?

    So it seems to be meaningful then.
     
  11. robojerk

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    When came back to their party Rory's father asked the Doctor if they just left and come back from an adventure because both Rory and Amy were wearing different cloths, the doctor says yes and we learn that they were gone for 7 weeks in what was only seconds to the people at the party. The cloths they came back wearing were the same cloths from the previous episode. :eek:

    I've read lots of crazy theories btw....

    The craziest two are that the little girl in the computer from the library in episode Forest of the Dead (where River Song dies, but lives in the computer) is also the new companion. She tell River when they meet in the virtual world "Aren't I a clever girl" which is how Oswin talks. The second is that Oswin is also the daughter or River Song and the Doctor. In the beginning of the Asylum of the Daleks the Doctor says something like that is really hard for someone to get a message to him, something probably only River Song could do.

    It would also explain why at the last scene of the Library, River kisses the girl good night and looks like she's raising the girl as her daughter in the virtual world, that maybe her daughter built for her.

    Just theories, not mine, they're probably off base, but I like them.
     
  12. robojerk

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    The big theory is that the reason this goodbye is so drawn out, and why The Doctor seems to be traveling backwards through the Pond's life, is because he already saw them die. He's going back to revisit them because he misses them.
     
  13. JohnB1000

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    A slightly different version is that he knows their time together is ending so he just wants to continue enjoying it, also because they have become jaded, he's traveling to when they were not.

    There have been some confusing things, at the end of Dinosaurs, they said they wanted to go home but at the beginning of Town they were just there for example, no explanation. I think there is definitely something going on with the current timeline.

    IF I was to guess the true timeline is

    Power of Three
    Town
    Dinosaurs
    Asylum

    Pond Life clearly overlaps because in the middle he shows them adventures from this season but the "divorce" appears to come at the end though that is not definite.

    So without me realizing it, until I wrote it down, we're going in reverse order.

    I'm not worrying right now about theories about Oswin :) It was the Dalek Parliament that called him remember not Oswin, though there could be a connection.
     
  14. robojerk

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    That looks better.
     
  15. Dawghows

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    This makes me feel like I need to go back and watch them all again.
     
  16. danterner

    danterner Not it!

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    If this bears out, and the episodes are being aired out of sequence intentionally as part of some larger plan, then that makes me like this season so much more.
     
  17. robojerk

    robojerk Active Member

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    And where does "Pond Life" fit in?
     
  18. JohnB1000

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    I don't know, Pond Life was spread over a few months. In the middle the Doctor visited and scenes were shown from this season in relation to "what's going on". Pond Life may well overlap everything.
     
  19. murgatroyd

    murgatroyd Don't stop believin'

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    I don't think phrases like "the true timeline" make any sense when talking about a show like this.

    Wibbley wobbley timey wimey and all that.
     
  20. cheesesteak

    cheesesteak Meh.

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    +1. I'm still tired of Amy though. Sure wish her daughter would show up soon.
    My favorite departure scene is and always will be when Tom Baker drops Sarah Jane Smith off at home. I can't see the Ponds topping that.
     

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