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Doctor Who "ASYLUM OF THE DALEKS" Sept 1, 2012 BBC America

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by DianaMo, Sep 1, 2012.

  1. Sep 3, 2012 #61 of 148
    pteronaut

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    Future episode speculation commentary ahead
    You know, it won't have been the first time that Doctor Who (show) had an actress who played a one-off character join The Doctor as companion as a completely different character. ;)
    Freema Agyeman for example.
     
  2. Sep 3, 2012 #62 of 148
    BitbyBlit

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    More info about The Spoiler:

    Jenna-Louise had a clever response to the question, "Do you have a favorite monster that you'd like to meet?"

    I wonder if it could be that she is River Song's daughter. Being 1/2 somewhat Time Lord might be what gave her the ability to resist the Dalek programming.
     
  3. Sep 3, 2012 #63 of 148
    DianaMo

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    Did everyone watch Pond Life yet?

    If your Tivo can view Youtube, just run a search on Pond Life and view the 5 videos + commentary from the BBC there...

    Doctor Who Prequel: Pond Life part 1 - Series 7 Autumn 2012 - BBC One
    [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMdBsc5pQ1k[/media]

    Or use this link:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00wqr12/features/pond-life

    I thought it was interesting seeing which files had the most activity.
     
  4. Sep 3, 2012 #64 of 148
    aaronwt

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    :eek: What I posted was my thinking at the time. I don't know why I was thinking that a thread about an episode would have a spoiler tag about content in that episode? But that is what I was thinking at the time and the reason I clicked on the spoiler. Major :eek: for me. :D
     
  5. Sep 3, 2012 #65 of 148
    Rob Helmerichs

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    Well, if it's any consolation, you're meant to know that...and people everywhere else who don't have such pedantic forum rules are having much more interesting conversations because they're able to discuss the actual implications of what was revealed in this episode instead of pretending that it's a spoiler.
     
  6. Sep 3, 2012 #66 of 148
    LoadStar

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    The whole "Dalek conversion" thing reminded me of the way Star Trek tweaked the Borg assimilation thing between TNG and the movies... and it was bad there, and it was bad here.
     
  7. Sep 3, 2012 #67 of 148
    BitbyBlit

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    I think it depends on how far they take the conversion. If the conversion was limited to the planet of rejects (and the woman who lured the Doctor was an exception so that they could trap him) then it makes sense that they wouldn't care about having their species diluted by outside DNA.

    So as a defense mechanism it makes sense. They can't beat you if they join you.

    On the other hand, I have to wonder what the purpose of doing a "full conversion" on Orwin was. The Doctor said it was because the Daleks "needed genius". Given that the outside Daleks had no clue what was going on down there, he must have been referring to the ones on the planet. But I'm not sure what they needed genius for. To escape? Because they wanted something more out of their existence?
     
  8. Sep 3, 2012 #68 of 148
    busyba

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    She looks like Miranda Kerr.
     
  9. Sep 3, 2012 #69 of 148
    TonyD79

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    Yes.
     
  10. Sep 3, 2012 #70 of 148
    TonyD79

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    I had to rewatch to answer this. They took a gamble. He had died. And some said he may have come back. Let's hope that is true. Recap of he voice over by the dalek puppet at the beginning. They heard rumors of his return and played the odds. Pretty simple, actually. They didn't "know" he was alive. By just worked that angle in case he was.
     
  11. Sep 3, 2012 #71 of 148
    kdmorse

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    Also, given the Doctor's nonlinear existence, it almost doesn't matter.

    You set a Doctor trap, you're likely to get a Doctor passing by at some point in his life, even if he is indeed known to have died.
     
  12. Sep 4, 2012 #72 of 148
    Anubys

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    I am willing to concede that she is a good mix of Christina Ricci and Denise Richards :D

    Just read Alan Sepinwall's review of the episode and he talked about how she is the next companion. I hope you enjoyed yourself, in an ironic way, of course!
     
  13. Sep 4, 2012 #73 of 148
    That Don Guy

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    How is it going to work? It probably "just does." If this was the Tom Baker era, I'd expect somebody to say, "It's a fascinating story; remind me to tell you someday."

    Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but back in the "Trial of a Time Lord" days (in the Colin Baker/Sixth Doctor era), they introduced Bonnie Langford's character as a companion from the Doctor's future, who suddenly became his companion "in the present," and they never did explain how he found her in the first place.
     
  14. Sep 4, 2012 #74 of 148
    Rob Helmerichs

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    But,
    given Moffat's penchant for planning his seasons out in excruciating detail, I suspect he knows exactly what he's doing. I just hope what he's doing lives up to the hype! It's a brilliant move on his and BBC's part, however, to get this kind of conversation going...at least, in places where it's allowed. They very cleverly manipulated events so everybody over there would know she was going to be the new companion starting at Christmas (there was a lot of publicity this summer with her, Moffat, and Smith), and concealed her presence in this episode to get people wondering how the hell she could possibly end up being the new companion? They're making very good use of the way society works these days to enhance people's enjoyment of the Doctor Who experience and build a lot of buzz in the process.
     
  15. Sep 4, 2012 #75 of 148
    cstelter

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    Yeah-- I'm of a similar mind. It reminds me of the River Song story-- he knew her ulitmate end before he really knew her. Since he never saw Oswin, perhaps when he meets her he'll not reconginze the voice-- but that doesn't explain why she does not recognize him. They may play some angle about miniatureized people and she was inside the dalek and in full control of it, but she was in fact really miniturized and not not really the dalek itself. Somehow that would be less satisfying to me, but I could see it. Looking forward as always to how they unbend it all. If he knows her after this event he'll have to show up in a very small window to rescue her before the asylum is destroyed.
     
  16. Sep 4, 2012 #76 of 148
    Rob Helmerichs

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    Or something altogether else could be going on, that just isn't occurring to us. Which could be very cool (if it works) or very not so cool (if it doesn't).
     
  17. Sep 4, 2012 #77 of 148
    murgatroyd

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    I must be an old fart for sure now, because I am sitting here thinking how I seem to enjoy Russell T. Davies' wild flights of self-indulgence much more than I do Moffat's. :eek:
     
  18. Sep 4, 2012 #78 of 148
    TonyTheTiger

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    I must admit, I enjoyed this episode, but am I the only one who thinks a regeneration is way past due?

    I haven't been a fan of "David Tennent Lite" since day one.
     
  19. Sep 4, 2012 #79 of 148
    Gunnyman

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    I used to be a fan but now not so much.
    Matt Smith is aping Tennant, not bringing his own style to the character.
    It's like when they switched Darrens on Bewitched.
     
  20. Sep 4, 2012 #80 of 148
    That Don Guy

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    Well, they don't have that many left - IIRC, it's "the original plus 12 regenerations" (the "fifth doctor" (Peter Davison) once referred to himself as "the fourth regeneration," so I assume that's how it works).

    Then again, there's a way to "reset your count"; I think somebody (The Doctor? The Master?) was told in "The Five Doctors" that he could get a new set of 12 regenerations.
     

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