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Do you plan on buying a TiVo Mini at launch?

Discussion in 'TiVo Mini' started by jfh3, Mar 6, 2013.

Do you plan to buy a TiVo Mini at launch?

Poll closed Apr 6, 2013.
  1. Yes - I plan to buy one Mini

    53 vote(s)
    32.5%
  2. Yes - I plan to buy two or more

    13 vote(s)
    8.0%
  3. Maybe, but I will not be an early adopter

    47 vote(s)
    28.8%
  4. No, I have no plans for a Mini

    41 vote(s)
    25.2%
  5. Undecided

    9 vote(s)
    5.5%
  1. Videodrome

    Videodrome tivo - please wait..

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    No i belong to alot of other forums, and this usually is the most close minded of them all. Surprise price is a something might make this product better. I guess that wasn't obvious enough . Really this forum should be called orthodox tivo users only. On 2 other boards i go to people couldn't understand or advocate the monthly fee. Continue with your worship.
     
  2. Videodrome

    Videodrome tivo - please wait..

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    Cell phone is a bad comparison , because you can move to another provider and it still works. You can move an ATT phone to Tmobile. Tivo doesnt offer lifetime service on tivo units, if it breaks its your problem. Cell phone companies usually maintain the cell phone thru a contact. There is no contact with tivo. Tivo provides nothing, there are using your power, your network. If they changed the wording from Subscribe to Rent, and Purchase, that would make sense, but they arent. So hence many are asking questions.
     
  3. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    It's not worship it's logical understanding!

    TiVo Mini != Roku no matter how similar they are from a hardware perspective. The companies have different business models and the boxes have different functionality. Some people here believe that the singular ability to stream recordings from your primary TiVo to another room is worth the $250. You obviously do not, and that's fine. But calling it "stealing" is ignorant. It's capitalism. They can choose to charge whatever they want and we can choose to buy or not. If sales don't meet expectations then TiVo will likely drop the price to compensate. That's how the free market works.

    I'm sure we would all love it if the Mini was $50 with no fee. But it is what it is and the only vote you get is with your wallet.
     
  4. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Well that's not true! Most cell phones are carrier locked. And most carries wont unlock them until you complete the original commitment period or pay a hefty early termination fee. In addition some carriers use different technologies which make it impossible to switch service providers. (i.e. can't use an AT&T iPhone with Sprint even if it's unlocked)

    Also cell phones have standard warranties just like all electronics. 90 days full, 1 year parts. Cell providers will sell you a maintenance plan for a monthly fee, but it's not part of the deal. TiVo will do the same thing. For $30 they'll sell you a 3 year warranty that includes transfer of the lifetime service to a replacement unit. In fact they take it one step further and will actually honor in store warranties. So if you buy a warranty from Best Buy and they replace a TiVo/Mini under that warranty TiVo will transfer your lifetime service to the new box. That is completely above and beyond on their part.

    See this post seems to shift your opinion from displeasure of the price of the Mini to a general disdain for TiVo as a company. If you don't like the TiVo business model then don't buy into it. You have other options. (i.e. HTPC or provider supplied DVR)
     
  5. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    This forum has many folks that are happy Tivo users but want them to do better (and regularly post here about the issues), it's not just fanboys. Once you look past that minority you'll see that. There's also plenty here that are not happy with Tivo and regularly vent about it.
     
  6. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    Is the chip capable of 1080P60 output. I just setup my Mini and I see for the resolution choices it still shows 1080P24 pass through. So is this just shown to keep it inline with what the Premiere can do for 1080P output?
     
  7. sbiller

    sbiller Active Member

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    Good question. I don't think I've ever heard it addressed.
     
  8. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Does anyone even use 1080p/60? I know some shows are shot at 1080p/60 these days, but AFAIK they're not actually broadcast anywhere at that combo. BluRay and all the online services are 1080p/24 max
     
  9. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    I don't mean actual content in 1080P60, but to output it at 1080P60 like most devices do. If the TiVo can scale content to 1080P60 like other devices, then there might be less issues with resolutions changes in Netflix. Depending on what choices are selected for the output resolution.
     
  10. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    But why would you want your 1080p/24 content converted to 60fps? It's not an even multiple which means the frame rate conversion will either have to use interpolation or a 2:3 pulldown type pattern. Neither one is really desirable.
     
  11. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    I typically use 24P but only because of my external scaler. I use two DLP sets and a 60 Hz LCD so either my scaler applies 3:2 pulldown, the TV, or the device. But I'll take the DLP over a 120, 240, or 480 LCD since the DLP is still a couple of orders of magnitude faster than an LCD. I don't have a problem with judder since I've lived with it for decades already
     
  12. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    24 is best used for film based sources (movies) and 60 is best for video based (TV).

    Edit: but of course a lot of TV is now filmed at 24Hz as well.
     
  13. wgc

    wgc New Member

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    I've been wanting to buy a "Tivo Mini" for years now. All I want is something small, quiet and relatively unobtrusive, with the great TiVo interface, and access to all my recordings. This is a perfect fit for what we're looking for.

    - I haven't had much of a gadget budget for a few years since having kids, but I'll make the exception for this.
    - I can no longer afford to be an early adopter, but I'll make the exception for this.
    - $250 does seem excessive, but I'll bite.

    However I only have a two-tuner Premier :-( I'll even pay that excessive cost as an early adopter (taking food out of the mouths of my babies ;-) ) for recordings only, if I can't have streaming (who watches live TV?). .... Bummer.

    Hopefully TiVo will change their position when they release the dynamic tuner allocation feature.
     
  14. jmpage2

    jmpage2 New Member

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    Or as others said, you can break out a calculator and realize that you pay the "one time" $250 for the unit + lifetime and then use it in various places around the house when you like. If you ever want to retire the unit, you will probably get $150-$200 for it used with lifetime service so your actual "out of pocket" cost over the span of a few years will be pretty minimal.
     

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