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Do you plan on buying a TiVo Mini at launch?

Discussion in 'TiVo Mini' started by jfh3, Mar 6, 2013.

Do you plan to buy a TiVo Mini at launch?

Poll closed Apr 6, 2013.
  1. Yes - I plan to buy one Mini

    53 vote(s)
    32.5%
  2. Yes - I plan to buy two or more

    13 vote(s)
    8.0%
  3. Maybe, but I will not be an early adopter

    47 vote(s)
    28.8%
  4. No, I have no plans for a Mini

    41 vote(s)
    25.2%
  5. Undecided

    9 vote(s)
    5.5%
  1. Mar 8, 2013 #41 of 114
    CubsWin

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    Same here. I would buy one for sure, but I have the original 2-tuner Premiere. I assume this is TiVo's way to try to force people to upgrade to newer Premiere's, but in my case that isn't going to happen.
     
  2. Mar 11, 2013 #42 of 114
    emeril2k1

    emeril2k1 New Member

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    I've been wanting a mini since I first heard about it over a year ago. The 4 tuner requirement is a deal breaker. I don't need a live-tv stream. If I have to buy a 4-tuner unit I may as well just move the old unit to the bedroom and skip the mini.
     
  3. Mar 11, 2013 #43 of 114
    bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    I am waiting for a refresh in Premier line. I suspect we will see a 6 tuner DVR with upgraded processor late this year or early next.

    I will upgrade to a new DVR and three Minis at that time.
     
  4. Mar 11, 2013 #44 of 114
    cmeinck

    cmeinck Member

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    Same here. Buying a 4-tuner Premiere only to downgrade it to a 3-tuner (with TiVo Mini) doesn't make sense to me. When they go 6 tuner, I'll jump in on their whole house system.

    They should have timed this better. TiVo Mini by itself is ok. If they released new hardware and created a set of attractive home bundles, I'd count myself among those who would be excited. I have (2) Premiere XL's and (1) Premiere. A 6-tuner plus 3 minis is my future system.
     
  5. Mar 11, 2013 #45 of 114
    NotNowChief

    NotNowChief Addicted to TiVo

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    I went ahead and ordered one.

    It has the 30 day guarantee, if I don't like it, or am just unsure about it, it will only cost me return shipping.

    When I see others saying they want to wait for the 6-tuner or whatever is next, I think they need to have their heads examined. We waited so long for the Mini, and if speculation for a 6-tuner box is at the end of this year or early next, there is no doubt that it is a loooooong way off. It is just not worthwhile to "wait" for a new product from TiVo.
     
  6. Mar 11, 2013 #46 of 114
    cmeinck

    cmeinck Member

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    The trouble with the mini is that for most, it requires new hardware. If I had a 4-tuner Premiere, I'd buy one. Having two XL's, I'd need at least an XL4 plus a mini, leaving me with 3 tuners for recording, rather than the 4 I have now. It also wouldn't allow me to transition to one box plus mini's in each room.

    I'm not terribly resistant to the Mini as I am about having to pick up an XL4 that could be outdated in a year and isn't suitable for a true whole house solution.
     
  7. Mar 11, 2013 #47 of 114
    rainwater

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    The mini isn't designed for existing customers. I'm not sure why people with 2-tuner TiVos expect the Mini to be designed for them. Any live tv extender hardware is going to require a host with lots of tuners. Sure they could of added in support for setting up with no live tv support 2 tuner setups. But that isn't a good user experience. They are trying to sell a whole home system that just works.
     
  8. Mar 11, 2013 #48 of 114
    cmeinck

    cmeinck Member

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    I'm not expecting it to work with my hardware. I'm just stating that it's a less compelling product considering it requires you purchase the older Tivo Premiere 4/XL4. Even pared with that product, it doesn't provide for a typical whole home solution. At best, it's a two room solution and a poor one. If you own a 4, it makes sense. Not sure it makes sense for those without a 4 or those of us looking for a true whole home solution.
     
  9. Mar 11, 2013 #49 of 114
    aaronwt

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    Aren't most of the initial sales going to be to existing customers? I know I plan on getting one. I already have two elites and one two tuner Premiere.
     
  10. Mar 11, 2013 #50 of 114
    rainwater

    rainwater Active Member

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    I doubt they are expecting very many retail sales at launch. It's truly a MSO product. My guess later this year they will start pushing retail bundles that will make sense to try to attract new customers.
     
  11. Mar 11, 2013 #51 of 114
    ducker

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    Hell, I'd love the mini If I was to use my 2 tuner premier unit... Why? To watch previously recorded material - and premium content material. I can't do that with my stream :( The percent of Live content I watch in any given week must be less than 5% of my total viewing time.
     
  12. Mar 11, 2013 #52 of 114
    kilcher

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    I've been asking for something like this for a long time. Would love to have one for our bedroom. $250 is way too much though. Most I'd pay is $150. So add me to the list of people waiting for refurbs to hit the internet. :(

    ETA: Also, the 2 tuner requirement is killing this as well.

    Hopefully this will all be in the next TiVo box (for roughly the same price point). TiVo's coming out with too many boxes. :p
     
  13. Mar 11, 2013 #53 of 114
    jfh3

    jfh3 New Member

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    The Tivo Stream functionality is expected to be in the next generation of DVRs. Obviously, the function of the Mini could not be included in the DVR box.

    I doubt very seriously that you will see any/many lifetimed minis on the secondary market for a long time. If there are any Mini's, I would expect them to have been those with monthly subs on them and I doubt any refurbs offered by Tivo will be discounted all that much.
     
  14. Mar 11, 2013 #54 of 114
    jfh3

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    +1
     
  15. Mar 11, 2013 #55 of 114
    Videodrome

    Videodrome tivo - please wait..

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    The mini is worth at most $40, look at Ruku. Which is already compatible with Verizon and can do 100 more things . There is zero advantage to buying over keeping my present box. I think you being a fool. You could almost build an htpc for that , and just rent an addition cable card. BTW using curse words just diminishes your argument.
     
  16. Mar 11, 2013 #56 of 114
    atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Active Member

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    My issue was with you accusing TiVo of theft because of the price, not if a Mini is worth what TiVo is selling it for or not.

    In fact have no intention of arguing what a Mini is worth at all. What something is worth is a personal decision based on personal judgments. So if someone believes a Mini is worth $250 and is a good value they are correct, if someone else thinks a Mini is a bad value and not worth $250 they are also correct.
     
  17. Mar 11, 2013 #57 of 114
    Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I'm not sure your cynical outlook should be heeded. The same guy who told us that a "reliable source" told him the TiVo Mini would be available in March told us a 6 tuner unit would be available in September. He was right about the Mini, so we'll see if he was right about the 6 tuner box. But the recent TiVo FFC waiver request seems to indicate that some sort of new hardware is coming. It may or may not have 6 tuners, but it's almost guaranteed to have a better chip that can run the UI faster.
     
  18. Mar 11, 2013 #58 of 114
    Videodrome

    Videodrome tivo - please wait..

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    So if you go to a gas station charging you $16 dollars a gallon, vs $3 what are you going to think ?
     
  19. Mar 11, 2013 #59 of 114
    Tony Chick

    Tony Chick New Member

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    Sherman...
    I'd buy one for $100, equivalent to a Roku or Apple TV but I'm having a hard time figuring what I'd be paying a subscription for. I already pay a subscription for the XL4 which is basically for the guide info, paying an additional $5 per mo to access one of those "already paid for" tuners and already recorded programs is not sitting well with me. Its just a conceptual thing
     
  20. Mar 11, 2013 #60 of 114
    Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Why does everyone keep acting like they need some tangible reason, like guide data, to charge a subscription? Do you really think TiVo pays anywhere near $14.95/mo to Tribune for the guide data on your main TiVo?

    This is just how TiVo's business model is structured. They sell the hardware at, or below, cost and then make their money on the subscription. If you want a DVR with no "subscription" cost then get a Windows HTPC and a Ceton Echo. (it'll likely cost you more then a XL4/Mini combo)

    And I still don't get the comparison to a Roku or Apple TV. Those are both internet streaming devices that only have a value if you subscribe to the services they offer. (i.e. Netflix, iTunes, etc...) The TiVo Mini's main purpose is to extend your TiVo viewing around the house without the need for another full blown TiVo. It's only real competition is a second TiVo, which costs more then double.
     

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