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Do we think updates are over for Premieres?

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by b_scott, Sep 26, 2013.

  1. Oct 10, 2013 #61 of 112

    tomhorsley Well-Known Member

    Jul 22, 2010
    Looks like TiVo has a good chance to beat comcast. The latest word on the comcast forums is that the update isn't scheduled for October anymore. I did notice my external IP address just changed. Maybe they have everyone working on networking instead of cable.
  2. Oct 10, 2013 #62 of 112

    hershey4 Member

    May 31, 2006
    Red Sox Nation
    At least you didn't get your Premiere 4 a couple of weeks before Roamio came out like I did! I am so annoyed that I paid full price for a practically obsolete device, plus the fact that it has so many annoying aspects.

    The upside is that I am not a big fan of automatic upgrades and active development and changes to a big piece of tech that I am dependent on. Updates often cause more problems than solutions, I value stability. So I might be okay with this after all. (once I get used to all the regressions of P4).
  3. Oct 11, 2013 #63 of 112

    Balzer Member

    Nov 12, 2006
    Sioux Falls, SD
    I have to ask.. if you purchased the Premiere a couple of weeks before the Roamio release, could you have returned it for a refund, since it was within the 30 day money back thing?
  4. Oct 11, 2013 #64 of 112

    hershey4 Member

    May 31, 2006
    Red Sox Nation
    you would think so but unfortunately it sat in the box for 6 weeks before I could set it up and turn it on and discover it was such an inferior product. I was on the ball to make sure it arrived at my new house before Comcast did, but Comcast was unable to complete the installation (because they are flippin idiots - don't get me started...). A 6-week nightmare of miscommunication and incompetence followed before I finally got cable and internet service installed.

    And, true, it would be clear without using it that the value of it dipped, but it wasn't until I saw that it was not a great product combined with the value dipping that really aggravates me. Plus, I was so busy dealing with Comcast and moving in, it was not high on my radar. And usually with TV's and other electronics, the price gradually decreases as a new model approaches. Not so here. Full price to outlet clearance price. wooosh...
  5. Oct 11, 2013 #65 of 112

    bradleys It'll be fine....

    Oct 31, 2007
    Not to be a pain in the ass...

    But we were discussing the fact that a new unit was coming out for, what, the last 3 months? And that it was best to wait...

    You may not come here very often, but TiVo was definately leaking the information and Zatz and Sbiller were providing a heads up on both their sites and on this forum.

  6. Oct 11, 2013 #66 of 112
    rick stone

    rick stone New Member

    Dec 10, 2002
    Thanks Margaret. Your involvement is always appreciated.

    Do you know if the Fall Update will fix the Netflix issues we are all having with the Premiere? Locking up, freezing, rebooting, etc
  7. Oct 11, 2013 #67 of 112

    hershey4 Member

    May 31, 2006
    Red Sox Nation
    I had no idea. I'm not in the loop. I'm an infrequent visitor and when I do visit its generally very issue focused. I should visit more... it is amazing the amount of info that exists.

    Now that I think about it, I did start a thread about my upcoming move before I moved to sort out how the Series-2 played into the scheme. (or NOT!) I don't think Roamio came up. I'll have to go see. But even if it did, it takes using the P4 a bit to realize how yuck it is. I definitely assumed going from a 7-8 year old Series 2 to the latest Premiere would have to be a no-brainer and major improvement. features - yes, performance - no.
  8. Oct 11, 2013 #68 of 112

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

    Oct 11, 2005
    Rochester NY
    If you want to improve your Premiere's performance switch back to SDUI. With the Premiere's hardware you can either have a fast SDUI or a sluggish HDUI. Personally until I used a Roamio the Premiere's HDUI didn't bother me, but now that I have been spoiled the Premiere's HDUI really seems slow.
  9. Oct 11, 2013 #69 of 112

    shamilian Member

    Mar 26, 2003
    Tivo recently had a service outage and the discovery bar did not work. I noticed that the Premiere seemed to run faster without this extra part of the UI. I wish they gave us the option of removing the discovery bar from the My Shows Screen. I think that might make the experience a little more tolerable.
  10. Oct 11, 2013 #70 of 112

    TiVoMargret VP Product Dev & Chief Design Officer, TiVo

    Feb 2, 2008
    Silicon Valley
  11. Oct 11, 2013 #71 of 112

    MeInDallas Member

    Jul 31, 2011
    Dallas, Texas
    Thank you! Best news all week!
  12. Oct 12, 2013 #72 of 112

    timstack8969 Member

    May 14, 2004
    I hope it fixes the following problems:

    "Channel not available" message when tuning
    "Black Screen" for a second or two
  13. Oct 12, 2013 #73 of 112

    dhoward Member

    Mar 15, 2002
    Does this update include Dynamic Tuning between Mini and P4?
  14. Oct 12, 2013 #74 of 112

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

    Sep 19, 2006
    In the ATL
    +1000, but then Tivo couldn't push useless junk to you all the time.
  15. Oct 12, 2013 #75 of 112

    tvmaster2 Active Member

    Sep 9, 2006
    I have to admit that when pushed on the phone, you can sometimes get satisfaction with Tivo.

    However....I do remember CSR's being somewhat assured in that future updates would unleash the "full" power of the Tivo Premiere

    that never happened...not even close. The power was never there to begin with. For that, I would love to find a competing product and adios the Tivo's from the building.

    paying for a Roamio upgrade just doesn't feel right this time...feels like I've been suckered big time. The technical sloth that is the "powerful" Premiere interface really is insulting to a paying customer. Problem is, there really isn't that much competition.

    Remember when there were 15 different companies who made VCR's, and they all had something to offer? And when speakers were so big you could be buried in them.....lol
  16. Oct 12, 2013 #76 of 112

    tomhorsley Well-Known Member

    Jul 22, 2010
    OK, Why can no web designers get this right? On the TiVo box down in messages and settings, the TiVo Service Number is printed grouped into chunks with a dash between each chunk.

    If you try and copy it exactly as written, it won't take it in the priority update page.

    Sigh. Credit cards in web forms are always the same way too. Is this some secret requirement of the web designers guild to torture all the poor fools trying to use web forms? :).

    I also notice that the "number" includes letters, so if there is a round circle in the middle of a bunch of letters is that a zero or the letter O? (Of course if it is a hex number, then it must be a zero, and I don't see any letters past F :).
  17. Oct 13, 2013 #77 of 112

    MPSAN Active Member

    Jun 20, 2009
    Well, I hope they fix the bug where we get no audio unless we back up a few seconds!
  18. Oct 13, 2013 #78 of 112

    porges Member

    Feb 28, 2001
    I have that too (after catching up to live). Slightly cleaner workaround: hit pause twice, quickly.
  19. Oct 14, 2013 #79 of 112

    b_scott TiVo Fan

    Nov 27, 2006
    chicago, il
    Speaking of bugs, the past few months if I start watching a show off of another Premiere over the network that is STILL RECORDING, about 10-15 min away from the end it says it lost connection from the Tivo. Every time. So then you have to restart the episode and skip up to the point it disconnected. I hope this is fixed.
  20. Oct 14, 2013 #80 of 112

    b_scott TiVo Fan

    Nov 27, 2006
    chicago, il
    same happens to me. Glad it doesn't seem to be my receiver.

    Same. Just happened to me.

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