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Dish 322 any way to fix 'press select to continue'

Discussion in 'TiVo Help Center' started by al_bburn, Jan 1, 2004.

  1. Jan 1, 2004 #1 of 54
    al_bburn

    al_bburn New Member

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    Hello,

    I just switched from cable to Dish Network. I have a 322 receiver, using IR for Tivo, UHF for second tuner. All seems to work ok with one very irritating exception. The 322 schedules a daily call to get program guide information and check for software updates. When its done, it power cycles itself and instead of just going to a channel, it displays "Press Select to Continue".
    Grrrrrrr. Tivo cannot change the channel because it cannot press select.

    I can turn off the program updates but was wondering if anyone had another way?

    Thanks much in advance,

    Al
     
  2. Jan 1, 2004 #2 of 54
    stevel

    stevel Dumb Blond TCF Club

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    Does it do this EVERY night or only when there are software updates? TiVo doesn't know how to "press Select" and doesn't know it needs to.

    If you can turn off the program updates, do so, and manually check for them once a month or so when you are there to restore it to normal operation.
     
  3. Jan 2, 2004 #3 of 54
    al_bburn

    al_bburn New Member

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    Thanks for the reply.

    I disabled the daily program update "phone call" on the 322. While the box does not call out, something even worse happens - it displays an error at the time it would have dialed out which basically states if I don't allow it to dial I will be charged another 4.99 a month for the 2nd receiver. Now the 322s are a good deal in this regards, but it really hoses up Tivo and I love my Tivo. Seems a basic design feature of the sat boxes should be to allow channel changes to automagically elimitate the notification screens (e.g. hit enter to continue). Oh well, we don't design them, we just buy them I guess.

    Any other ideas would be much appreciated.

    One thought I have is to create a daily program timer that tunes to some channel, about 30 minutes after the box dials out for the program update.
    If this works, at least daily manual intervention wouldn't be required. I would have a small window of "non-Tivo'able" time, but it might be the best we can do. I'll post the result.

    Also, FYI - my basic setup is the Dish 322 dual tuner box (one IR remote, one UHF remote). The IR controlled tuner is out to the TiVo, over to the A/V receiver. The UHF controlled tuner is both coax to the TV input and cabled over to the A/V. This allows for an economical dual tuner for those with a separate PVR. Can watch one thing while Tivo is recording another.
    It also (at least in my case) preserves some simplicity on the basic TV. Just turn it on and use the 322 UHF remote like normal. For higher quality w/better sound, flip on the A/V and use vid-x inputs on the TV.

    Later,

    Al
     
  4. Jan 2, 2004 #4 of 54
    stevel

    stevel Dumb Blond TCF Club

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    The problem is that since the TiVo has no idea whether or not pressing Select is needed, and pressing that when it's NOT needed may have unwanted side effects, there's not much to be done. Dish receivers have always been a pain in that they don't allow a numeric channel change to take them off these status screens (for example, if it tunes to a channel you don't get or a PPV channel that has not been purchased.) I started out with Dish and an SVR-2000 three and a half years ago.

    So I see that Dish has actually made the problem even worse in the design of the 322.... Yuck.
     
  5. seanob

    seanob New Member

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    I just moved and used to have a dish 301. now I just discovered this problem with my new 322. I HATE it. I'm gonna have them send me 2 301s instead. Its the worst possible thing this 'press select' thing.

    question... my updates seem to only put in about 2 days of info. I never need this info but it seems that when there is no info I also cant get the channel to change. anyone have luck with disabling the updates and just going with none?
     
  6. seanob

    seanob New Member

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    I called Dish today and through much difficulty they are gonna come and replace my 322 with 2 301's. I have to pay a 'service call' fee but its gonna be cheaper than if I go buy my own tuners.

    so... if stay away from the 322 if you are gonna order new dish network service.
     
  7. Feb 3, 2004 #7 of 54
    zentex

    zentex New Member

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    so al...

    did this idea work? I find myself in the same situation.
     
  8. skaeight

    skaeight New Member

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    So any news on this workaround? Also, how fast is changing channels through the tivo on a 322?
     
  9. JimSpence

    JimSpence Just hangin'

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    Set up a timed macro on a universal remote to press "select" at a preset time?

    Or, sorry I have to say it.:D

    Get DirecTV DVRs. ;)
     
  10. skaeight

    skaeight New Member

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    No go on the directivo. Directv doesn't have my locals. Right now I'm still deciding between dish and directv. With directv I can get a receiver that will use the serial connection, however dish doesn't offer this. But if IR works relativly well with dish receivers I won't mind. I'm just trying to get some info to help make my decision.
     
  11. Peterod

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    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=128743&pagenumber=1

    DISH 322:

    al_bburn writes “All seems to work ok with one very irritating exception. The 322 schedules a daily call to get program guide information and check for software updates. When its done, it power cycles itself and instead of just going to a channel, it displays 'Press Select to Continue'. Grrrrrrr. Tivo cannot change the channel because it cannot press select.”

    Peterod has found the following workaround: “I have the 322 set for a 4am update connection. […] What I did was add a daily timer to ‘AutoTune’ the 322 to any sub'ed channel at 5am. The 322 is tuned at that time to the selected timer and the ‘Select Button’ screen is reset.”
     
  12. ptroost

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    I have tried this and it is not working. I set the autotune timer to 30 minutes after the call time but it doesn't "wake up" the 322 -> I still get the "press select to continue" screen. Any other workarounds or ideas? I can't believe how annoying this is. A hex on dish network!
     
  13. yucl

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    I've got the same problem but soloved it with an external power timer. I read from other places of the "manual timer" scheme but somehow it did not work for me. I did not want to spend more time to figure out why it did not work as it is painful to wake up and figure out what the receiver was doing at 4am.

    What I did was using an external power control timer and set it to turn the power off and on at 4:50am and 4:52am. Everything was fine eversince. I used a digital timer that I have had for a long time without real use. I guess you can use a cheap dial one but it probably will be better to choose one with 15min interval. Make sure your schedule guide update time is before that there is enough time to finish the update.

    Trading 322 with two 301 is not a very good idea to me. The 322 has the UHF remote control capability which is very useful and the guide looks much nicer than 301. In my setup, the tuner-1 in 322 goes to DVR(replay); tuner-2's ANT ouput goes to the ANT input of my HDTV; the composite output of tuner-2 goes to a video sender and was beamed wirelessly to my bedroom TV. I have a 508 sitting in the bedroom but this additional tuner can be useful when the 508 is recording but I want to watch something else live. This additional tuner-2 of 322 servers the same purpose for my HDTV too.

    My house does not have a good in-home cable distribution so I have to use the video sender. However, in my case, the video sender works very well.
     
  14. xaerospace

    xaerospace New Member

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    I finally found a thread about this issue. I hate Dish cause of it.... ARGH!!!

    I am going to try the timer work around. I have that setup right now and I don't think it is working. I do have a DVR Dish tuner, so I think I can set it up to record like 2 mins of a channel, than stop. Then let the tivo do all the "real" recording.

    Anyone find any other work arounds???
     
  15. bartling

    bartling New Member

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    Does anyone know what time the DISH network call is made? Some say 4:00 or 5:00. I recorded something at 3:00 and got nothing but the screensaver. I have been doing trial and error, but that takes forever since you can only try one per night.
     
  16. revscpa

    revscpa New Member

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    I believe you can change the time yourself. Go to SYSTEM SETUP on main menu. Then, to INSTALLATION and go to update. There you can choose the time of day you want the update to happen. Others have mentioned that one does not have to have daily updates. So, I'm going to try that since I'm going to be gone for a week.
     
  17. TUDrewser

    TUDrewser New Member

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    I talked to the tech guys at Dish tonight and they said while they can't officially suggest it, if you set a daily manual timer from say 3am to 11:59pm the Dish will never go into standby mode as long as a timer is "on". He also said that no activity in 3-6 hours of time will cause the receiver to go in to the "press select to continue" mode. Seems like having a 20 hour fake recording will keep the receiver awake, then Tivo can do its thing. They also said that even if a timer is going, you can still change channels, and therefore Tivo should still be able to change channels. Plus, setting a timer will "wake" the receiver up when it comes on. I'm trying it tonight...bummed that I missed tonights episode of Alias!!!! :mad:
     
  18. bruceniven

    bruceniven New Member

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    Has anyone tried the 20-hour timer? e.g from 3am-1159pm. Does this limit anything else e.g. watching on the 2nd TV while recording on TiVo? And does the 20hr timer stay live even if the channel is changed?

    Does the start time need to be after the daily call ends?

    Does anyone know how long the daily call takes? what's a safe amount of time to wait?

    Thanks all
    Peace. :confused:
     
  19. mdhorwitz

    mdhorwitz New Member

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    Just wanted to say thank you for everyone's input on this board. I freaked out when, after my first night of Dish service, I realized TiVo had recorded nothing but the "press select to continue" screen. But after trying the VCR timer workaround, I haven't have any problems. I just put a daily hour long VCR timer on my system at 5am, again at 10 am, again at 5pm and have had no trouble since then.
    Thank you so much!
    (You also saved Dish from an earful from me)
     
  20. TUDrewser

    TUDrewser New Member

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    This is a late reply, but setting the timer has worked perfectly. I have two Tivo's both recording off dish and I set the timer on both. Since my last post, I haven't had a single issue with the "press select to continue" screen. FYI, Dish was no help other than they helped me understand how the system worked and why the message was being displayed. When I asked them if the timer would work, there was silence for a few seconds and then, "well, I suppose that may actually work". Thanks for the brilliant ideas, Dish. But it's working like a charm now!
     

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