Test Platform from 2008: http://www.sri.com/newsroom/press-releases/sarnoff-releases-new-h264avc-bitstreams-opencable That is not a valid argument anyways. You don't do most of your testing on a live cable tv system. Not in this thread, but in another one that I had seen, comments to this effect were rampant. Tivo does most of their testing before it is put out there. Other threads suggested that the majority of their testing was done in beta test type rollouts. That is not true. I grant you that Tivo would most likely have to make minor fixes as things rolled out and began to be used. However, most of those things should have been minor. My argument was that it should have been in the product in the first place. Since it wasn't, how should they remedy? I gave up on a remedy, but that doesn't mean that I don't think there should have been one.