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Digital to Analog Converter Needed

Discussion in 'TiVo Help Center' started by desertpatriot, Dec 13, 2013.

  1. desertpatriot

    desertpatriot New Member

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    unitron: twc still offers analog channels 2-28 (by law?) in my area with the exception of channel 4 (nbc) which is digital. i use/view 2-28 to record on my tivo series2 box. with a channel line up that includes mexican soap operas and qvc i'd say i'm ready for a change :)
    note: channels 29-99 are recognized on the tivo series2 but are not viewable :(

    aj: i understand the concept of a dta but choose not to hassle with additional boxes, connectors, adapters, spaghetti, another added charge etc. your suggestion of series 3 or newer is more appealing at this point
     
  2. mr.unnatural

    mr.unnatural Active Member

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    Ellicott...
    Apparently you did not check the links in my posts to understand what the conversation was about. Everything I discussed is available from sources other than your cable company, except for a cablecard or standard converter box.
     
  3. ajwees41

    ajwees41 Active Member

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    well when your area starts to use Switched digital video you will need the sdv adapter from TWC which will work with your S3 or newer Tivo. That's only if you want a channel this only available on the digital tier also in my opinion your better off getting a S4 Tivo since they also handle mpeg 4 video if TWC decides to use it.
     
  4. ajwees41

    ajwees41 Active Member

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    there is no law that any cable provider can't go all digital.

    http://www.fcc.gov/guides/dtv-transition-did-not-require-cable-systems-switch-digital
     
  5. ajwees41

    ajwees41 Active Member

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    Apparently you didn't see were the OP wants to keep costs to a minimum.

    Even though he doesn't want more wires or boxes the DTA's from TWC would be the cheapest option for his situation since they should be free, but will make his S2 Tivo a single tuner.
     
  6. Davelnlr_

    Davelnlr_ Member

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    DTA's are $2.99 a month here from Comcast, and work 100% with my old Tivo series 1.
     
  7. mr.unnatural

    mr.unnatural Active Member

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    Ellicott...
    Which is exactly why I linked him to the hardware I suggested. By owning the hardware instead of renting it, it will cost him much less in the long run. If he can get an adapter from TWC for free to do what he wants then that would certainly be the least expensive way to go.
     
  8. ajwees41

    ajwees41 Active Member

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  9. scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

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    It already is a single tuner Tivo.


     
  10. Colbyt

    Colbyt Member

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    Amen.

    They are only 75 cents a month here and that is why I want to keep them.

    Since they convert from digital to analog, does anyone know if they will work with a two tunner series 3? I realize the second tuner will be useless and I won't get HD from the cable but I can get HD OTA.
     
  11. desertpatriot

    desertpatriot New Member

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    @unnatural: you're on the right track -owning is better than renting. the idea of giving more money to the cable companies (pack of thieves) doesn't sit well with me either. even if it entails paying more for 3rd party hardware then so be it
    at this point i'm considering two options:
    -purchasing a tivo series4 or newer w/transferable subscription -ebay, amazon etc.
    -building a pc based dvr box with an hd dual tuner pci express card
     
  12. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    That would depend in part on whether the DTA has line level outputs (composite video-the yellow jack, and left-right audio--the white and red jacks), or if it just outputs a channel 3 or 4 NTSC signal over co-ax.


    EDIT TO ADD:

    All 3 of the Series 3 models are dual tuner.

    The Tivos after the Series 2s do not have any inputs except the cable and Over The Air co-ax inputs (those threaded nipple thingies).
     
  13. Colbyt

    Colbyt Member

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    I think your edit answered the question but to clarify, the DTA also called a mini-box outputs on 3 or 4 via coax cable. My series 1 sees that as analog cable with only one channel. The channels are controlled in the mini box using the remote IR sensor.
     
  14. dianebrat

    dianebrat I refuse to accept your reality TCF Club

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    Correct, and S3 and higher do not have ir blaster capability
     
  15. Colbyt

    Colbyt Member

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    :eek: They really did sell us down the river didn't they. Sorta looks like they got into bed with the cable companies. Looks like when the S1 dies we are all done.

    I guess I will continue to get my fix from streaming sources. That is a lot easier than commercial zapping anyway. For sure it is far cheaper than digital cable with 87 channels of nothing to watch.
     
  16. ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    No, a cable box will not work with a Series 3 or newer Tivo. Also, there is no way the Tivo to control it either.
     
  17. dianebrat

    dianebrat I refuse to accept your reality TCF Club

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    How did they "sell us down the river"? CableCARDS are a far more reliable way of managing this as an industry standard (in most cases)

    Additionally the technology changed from analog and encoding to just being able to grab the digital stream without processing, they brought their game from the 20th century to the 21st, that's not "selling me down the river" that's innovation and moving forward.
     
  18. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    To be fair, when the S3 came out it could do both analog and digital over the air, and analog and digital cable, and if your digital cable was encrypted, it had provisions for cable cards which would negate the need for a separate cable box.

    As for a TA being built in, or included in what cable cards do, there's only so much TiVo can do when the cable companies want to be dicks about it and the FCC won't kick 'em where they deserve it.
     
  19. mr.unnatural

    mr.unnatural Active Member

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    Ellicott...
    Now you're talking. I've been using PC-based DVR setups for about six years now and I'm hooked. If you're seriously thinking about going this route then consider using Windows 7 instead of Windows 8. You need the Pro version of Windows 8 and then you'd have to pay an extra $10 to download the Media Center add-on. Windows 7 Home Basic already includes WMC and can be purchased for about $80 or less if you don't already have a license. I'd be happy to point you to lots of websites with guides and tutorials as well as hardware recommendations. Send me a PM so we don't clutter up the forums with off-topic posts.

    If you've already got a Windows 7 PC then all you need is the tuner. The Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-2250 and the AverMedia AverTV Duet are probably the two most popular PCI-e dual ATSC tuners. The SiliconDust HDHomeRun Dual is also quite popular, but it's a network-based tuner. There are lots of other models, but these are probably your best bet. I'm currently using all three with excellent results.

    Not sure where all the talk came from regarding S3 Tivos since the OP has a S2.
     
  20. desertpatriot

    desertpatriot New Member

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