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Dexter S8E01 6/30/13 "A Beautiful Day" SPOILERS

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Peter000, Jul 1, 2013.

  1. Hank

    Hank AC•FTW

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    But you'll need to add in the Captain into the equation, since it's almost certain he knows about the entire plan/plot.
     
  2. john4200

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    Did I not already say that? Besides, it is not essential to the whole thing. He was friends with Harry and they probably talked about it, but it is not necessary that the Captain played a major part (although he could have...we just don't know).
     
  3. rahnbo

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    I'm starting to like this theory that Dexter was created. Was it ever demonstrated in the show that his "mother" that he watched die was even really his mother or that his "brother" was really his brother? Did Dexter ever try to do a DNA match with them and his own DNA? I think the writers want us to jump to the conclusion that Vogel is his bio-mom. She could be, but I would hope its not that simple.
     
  4. GoPackGo

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    I didn't pick up on that until reading it in this thread, and I think it's a reach. Maybe that's where the season is headed, but I don't think so.
     
  5. Peter000

    Peter000 Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    I couldn't find it in the TV section. I really doubt it, 'cause iTunes never has the current season at the same time as broadcast. Unless it's in the Podcast section or something weird like that.

    ETA: And yes, I found it in the podcasts... just search for "Dexter Podcast" and it pops up as the first selection.
     
  6. Rob Helmerichs

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    They would have to assume we haven't been watching the show, because in light of what we know about Dexter's childhood it makes absolutely no sense.

    Clearly, though, she has been involved in some capacity.
     
  7. brebeans

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    Really? Why DEB is so ****ed up? I mean, she's sort of messed up, but Dexter is the king of "****ed up-ness"! :)
     
  8. pmyers

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    That was exactly my point. Dexter was told that was his mom in the container and THEN he had those "memories". I don't think it is out of the realm of possiblity that that could have been a lie and Vogel is his mother.

    To totally dismiss that because we saw Dexter have a "flashback" seems silly.
     
  9. Hank

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    I can't remember -- was the Captain also the Lieutenant before LaGuerta? If not, who was?
     
  10. goblue97

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    Isn't the "Captain" now "Deputy Chief"?
     
  11. john4200

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    LaGuerta was Lieutenant in season 1 episode 1. I'm not sure if there was ever a flashback or comment on who was Lieutenant before her. (that's Deb's quote, below, from S01E01)

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  12. john4200

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    What seems silly is to have such an outlandish theory without any evidence. Why not go with a simpler theory that fits the evidence, which is that the person who Dexter thinks was his mother is actually his mother?
     
  13. Hank

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    Yeah, whatever his name is. Didn't he start out as Lieutenant, then Captain (when LaGuerta took his place)?

    eta: nevermind
     
  14. Hank

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    Because we're talking about a dramatic TV series, not real life.
     
  15. john4200

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    Not a good answer. In most TV shows, the writers try to keep the story plausible and reasonably similar to real life.

    Now, if we were talking about a show where the writers do not care about that sort of thing at all, like say Revolution, then maybe you would have a point. But the writers for Dexter are no where near as bad as the ones for Revolution.
     
  16. Hank

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    Sorry, but that's just not true. That's what makes watching these shows so entertaining, that they AREN'T real life. You think Breaking Bad, Walking Dead, Dexter, Sopranos, etc are "plausible" stories? Hardly.
     
  17. john4200

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    Walking Dead, no. With the others, the writers try to make them plausible. They may not always succeed, but they certainly try, and they frequently succeed.
     
  18. pmyers

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    Can't believe I'm going allow myself to be sucked into your vortex.....

    but why is it such an outlandish theory that Dexter's mom was not killed in that container and that Vogel could be her? Seems just as plausible as any other theory one could come up with.

    And you don't need any hard evidence for a theory...that's kinda the point.
     
  19. waynomo

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    Vogel is not Dexter's step mom. If I had the money I would be willing to make a large bet on this. (Now if someone wants to lay me odds and doesn't have any inside information . . .) I saw no clues to even allude to that.

    The drawings that she handed Dexter are the type of typical drawings that child psychiatrists have children draw. For instance, they ask them to draw a self portrait and/or a picture of their family and other things. From how the child draws the pictures they can tell a lot about them and how they see the world and fit into it.

    I simply think Vogel was a child psychiatrist that Harry brought Dexter to when he was a young child. From this I will assume that Vogel worked with Harry to create a code, so the Dexter could reasonably function in society.

    I would love to have a real psychiatrist analyze the pictures. The one I remember was of the family with Dexter apart from Harry, Debra, and mom.
     
  20. Rob Helmerichs

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    But it has to make at least some sense. I know it's popular in this post-Lost era to believe that if you can conceive of it, it could be something the writers have in mind. But writers don't (usually) just throw ^#%$ out at random; it needs to fit in with what has gone before, and should be set up in some way. And in this case, we (and Dexter) have SEEN his Mom; she bears no resemblance whatsoever to Charlotte Rampling. And we have SEEN her die, and there's no hint that there was the kind of massive conspiracy necessary to fake her death, much less any motivation whatsoever for anybody to do such a thing.

    We also know that Dexter's step-mother died when he was a teenager, so that eliminates her (so to speak).
     

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