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Dexter S8E01 6/30/13 "A Beautiful Day" SPOILERS

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Peter000, Jul 1, 2013.

  1. getbak

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    An interesting spin would be if she's a serial killer who kills by convincing others to kill. They could also tie it in to the disportionately high number of serial killers operating in the Miami metro area over the last few years.
     
  2. Rob Helmerichs

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    Heh, that would be clever. Give a dumb but necessary consequence of the show's premise an in-story explanation.

    Slight problem...she's been in England.
     
  3. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give em Hell, Devils

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    No way. LaGuerta went to him last season with her suspicions about Dexter. If Captain Matthews knows about Dex and wanted him to be caught, he would have helped her rather than obstructing her.

    :confused: If you can type, you have spoiler tags available.
     
  4. Hank

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    I hate the "Next on Dexter" clips -- they really throw in A LOT of spoilers -- more than most other shows, so I try to avoid them at all costs.
     
  5. pmyers

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    Is there ANY way that could actually be Dexter's mom? And that's why Harry kept in contact with her and she had drawings from Dexter?
     
  6. Hank

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    Maybe Harry's real wife (Dexter's step-mother). Was she ever mentioned in previous seasons? It just seemed that Harry was a single-parent.
     
  7. lew

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    Spoilerized since the information came from news reports...at this point I don't think it qualifies as a big spoiler

    She is the person who developed "the code" with/for Harry. Remember Harry telling Dexter to just give whatever answer he thought was wrong when he was given the psy test. Looking back it makes sense Harry had some professional help with his decision to channel Dexter's impulses instead of trying to stop them altogether.
     
  8. robojerk

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    No, Dexter witnessed his mommy get cut up with a chain saw while he was a toddler. That's what made Dexter and his brother (Ice Truck Killer) who they are.
    I think she died while Deb and Dex were still young. Part of why Deb is so ****ed up, Harry was focusing his attention on Dexter while Deb needed parental guidance. If she faked her death, that would be stupid.
     
  9. pmyers

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    Well in all fairness...that is what Dexter was told.
     
  10. robojerk

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    IIRC, I think he had flashbacks of the incident of Laura Mooser (Dexter's mom) being cut up. Also Laura was definitely no elite profiler, i think she had problems with the law herself (drugs?) and became an informant for Harry. Unless they can come up with some explanation how this women can be his biological mother who happens to be a top notch serial killer profiler, then somehow Laura got him and raised him like he was hers, he sees Laura die which makes him into a psychopath serial killer, then his biological mother somehow helps Harry develop the code to protect him? That's really far fetched, but then again this show has gone into some weird places before.
     
  11. Hank

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    My bet is still:
    Laura=Bio Mom
    Vogel=Step Mom
     
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    I think Dexter would recognize his step mom. Evelyn Vogel is obviously someone Harry confided in, and maybe helped Harry guide Dexter and designed the code so she might feel some sort of parental connection/responsibility to Dexter.
     
  13. stellie93

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    Dexter has changed so much since the early seasons--he really seemed like a sociopath then. He was very closed down, he didn't have sex at all, he was a loner. Now he sleeps around, seems good with the kid except for taking him to crime scenes, and is totally out of control. I liked the original Dexter better.
     
  14. Hank

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    I had a thought earlier today. Perhaps the Captain, Vogel, and Harry were part of a secret plan hatched at Miami Metro to create such a killer to take care of the "garbage" that the MMPD could not do, legally? Just like The Borne movies. A classified program to mold and shape a child to "take out the trash". The were just waiting for an abandoned, orphaned child to show up somewhere, place him in the trailer with his "mother" to hatch the memories... and shape and mold his every move. Vogel didn't have to be his step-mother, but someone who was very close to the plot who Dexter may have never seen. The Ice Truck Killer may have been his real brother or possibly not. Doesn't really matter. And it was working very well until LeGuerta showed up sniffing around and trying to expose Dexter.
     
  15. rahnbo

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    True, but I thought they said she had been back in Miami for about 1 1/2 years so she could have influenced the melon baller murder or given her skill set done it herself.
     
  16. Rob Helmerichs

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    Right, but the problem is there's been an absurdly high number of serial killers in Miami for years now. Had she been whispering in everybody's ear, that would explain that (although the social ramifications of serial killers have been pretty much ignored, and by now those would be massive).
     
  17. DevdogAZ

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    Do you really think cops would think that far ahead and plan something that wouldn't bear fruit for 20-25 years? When they may no longer be alive or may no longer be on the force? And who is to say this sociopath that they create would be intelligent, principled, and skilled enough to commit murders, do it very discreetly, and only target bad people? That seems like a very long chain of potential coincidences that would have to go right for a plan like that to work.
     
  18. rahnbo

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    It would make an interesting TV series. Oh... wait. :)
     
  19. rahnbo

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    True.
     
  20. john4200

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    I agree the first part seems unlikely. The last part, though, Harry had a lot of control over. He basically trained Dexter from childhood to do exactly what you said.

    So, if we scrub the whole "plan" and make it more of an opportunist sort of thing -- Harry has toddler Dexter essentially dropped in his lap, he feels guilty since he is sort of responsible for what happened, and he decides to adopt Dexter. But after taking Dexter to a psychiatrist (Vogel?) he finds out that Dexter is at risk to be a sociopath, and Harry, in consultation with Vogel, decides to raise Dexter under his Code and train Dexter to go after other killers without getting caught.
     

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