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Dexter - S08E04 - "Scar Tissue" - OAD 7/21/2013 *spoilers*

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by DevdogAZ, Jul 22, 2013.

  1. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give em Hell, Devils

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    Surprised there is no thread yet. You guys have been pretty talkative about this show for the first few episodes of this season.

    Anyway, did they finally acknowledge in this episode that Batista still owns the restaurant? I had found it odd up until now that he retired last year and opened a restaurant, and then this season he's been promoted to lieutenant without any mention of his retirement or his restaurant.

    So Harry probably killed himself because he couldn't live with what he turned Dexter into, and now Deb wants to kill both herself and Dexter. Obviously she didn't succeed. It will be interesting to see if this changes how Dexter feels about her.

    Still waiting to see how Deb's boss fits into this whole thing. I refuse to believe he's nothing more than an ex-cop who is now a PI and Deb's boss.

    Interesting that the Brain Surgeon guy would clear out of his house and take all the shoes, but leave his computer and everything else in the basement lair.
     
  2. john4200

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    I was not 100% convinced that Yates is the brain surgeon. His reaction when he saw Dexter was strange -- "Vogel has found herself a hero". But the brain surgeon already knew that Vogel had a man with her, since he sent his & hers brain pieces. He should have said something like "Vogel's man is trying to be a hero". Also, the woman in the cabinet did not appear to have anything done to her head or brain. I suppose Yates could have been planning to do the brain surgery later and got interrupted. So the evidence is not conclusive, and Yates could be the brain surgeon, but I am not yet convinced.

    Deb is still very confused. She tried to kill Dexter (and herself), but then she saved Dexter's life (although that was a strange scene -- the guy who pulled Deb out just disappeared).
     
  3. mooseAndSquirrel

    mooseAndSquirrel Well-Known Member

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    "previously on Dexter" showed somebody telling Dexter that Harry killed himself. I don't remember ever seeing that on the show.

    And yeah, leaving a stabbed but not dead girl in your basement isn't very good fleeing!

    And you're right, they definitely showed Angel retiring. Of course, there are so many unrealistic parts to this work environment. Like a lab technician having oodles of time to go killing and investigating. A real lab tech is probably working 70 hour weeks and is highly accountable. Instead, it's here's a brown bag of clothes from the stabbed girl. Nice chain of custody there!

    I still enjoy the show, but I'm not thrilled with this wrap up season.
     
  4. Sromkie

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    Deb couldn't live with herself if she killed Dexter. The only way it would work for her is if she died at the same time--that way, she doesn't have to live with it. As soon as she was rescued, that plan was foiled, and she had to save him. She still loves him. She hates him too, of course (which is more of a reflection on her hating herself, really--she hates what she became because of him), but she loves him.

    She was also acting rashly and in the moment. Once she was rescued, she probably had a change of heart as the reality of her actions set in.
     
  5. brebeans

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    Also agree that I'm not so sure that Yates is the brain surgeon. Something else happening here.

    I know there are some loose ends with the series, especially the last couple of seasons. however, I am enjoying this season more than I thought I would and I love Charlotte Rampling as Dr. Vogel. She used to be quite hot, back in the day.

    The previews looked like Dex was angry at Debra for the attempt at taking both their lives, but we'll see. I'm interested in where all of this goes....Debra line, Harry line, Vogel line, Yates (or other) line and Matthews and Deb's ex beau........
     
  6. Sromkie

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    I agree with this. It would be too easy if Yates were the killer. That was an interesting catch you had with his wording, too... It did sound like e didn't expect Vogel to be working with someone. If this were the killer, he probably would have responded more like you proposed. Maybe Vogel recommended the brain surgery procedure on more than one of her patients.
     
  7. Sromkie

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    With Laguerta's death, it's not surprising that plans could change and he'd come back. It's likely he was the best person to fill the role on short notice. It was nice to see acknowledgement if the restaurant, though. Angel must be a busy man.
     
  8. ADG

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    VERY strange writing. The car goes into the water, a stranger sees it happen and dives in. Pulls Deb to shore and................ then vanishes from the face of the earth?
     
  9. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give em Hell, Devils

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    Yes, I think it's perfectly plausible that with LaGuerta's death and Deb's breakdown, Capt. Matthews convinced Batista to come back and be Lt. The only reason I brought it up is because they've never told us any of that information. We simply went from Batista being retired and owning a restaurant to Batista being back on the force as Lt. with no mention of the retirememt or the restaurant for 3+ episodes. That just seems like the type of thing that should have been mentioned in the season premiere, with a throwaway line from Matthews to Batista saying something like, "Thanks again for coming out of retirement to help us out."
     
  10. Test

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    Harry faked his death and went into hiding. He is back to clean up his mess and get rid of Dexter and the good Doctor.
     
  11. pmyers

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    I actually blame the camera angle. What I believe happaned was the fat guy was absolutely exhausted and "passed out" on the beach after saving Deb. I do agree they could have handled it better though.
     
  12. pmyers

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    OK....who else said "If Deb's boss gives her another "drink" this week the Tivo board is going to go crazy...." during their scene together? lol. I know I did!
     
  13. Sromkie

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    Yeah, including a throwaway line like that wouldn't have hurt, that's for sure. I give most shows a pass om stuff like that if, when I watch it, I can come up with a reasonable explanation of what happened. It's only when I can't figure out how we logically could have gotten from point A to point B that it bothers me. I can totally see why it would be brought up, though; it was a pretty big deviation from how things were left last season.
     
  14. Sromkie

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    Well, he did give her a beer that she didn't drink :)
     
  15. getreal

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    I'll be the first to predict that Vogel will be the brain surgeon. I just rewatched the first episode of this season and she said to Dexter that they were both drawn to murder and that maybe they were both a little bit crazy. :eek:

    The first scene at the park bench dedication to La Guerta, Angel Batista said that it took Maria's death to make him realize that all he wanted to do was catch bad guys. I think that was meant to explain his return to Miami Metro Homicide and we were left to connect the dots.
     
  16. john4200

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    I don't think you are the first (unless you posted in another thread) because I'm pretty sure someone already made that prediction.

    If Vogel is involved, it is more of a supervisory role, since she is not physically capable of some of the acts involved. But I will be disappointed if she is directing things -- the facts just do not add up very well for such a conclusion, and any idea of motive is just too far-fetched.
     
  17. Sacrilegium

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    You guys all have even worse memories than I do, and I didn't think that was possible ;)

    In the beginning of the first episode of the season, when they're all standing around doing the exposition on what happened between seasons, Batista says LaGuerta's death is what caused him to come out of retirement and join the force again.
     
  18. DUDE_NJX

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    Alligators.
     
  19. sharkster

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    Yeah, the car in the water thing was weird but the guy only saving Deb and disappearing, I guess although it felt wonky, was about HER being the one to go back in and save Dexter - or not.

    I'm feeling so weird this season. I think part of it is watching the show in the summer and the other part is that I'm bummed it's going to end with this season and I have a little anxiety about how it will end.

    But to go all superficial - WTH is with Quinn's hair? Why do guys, especially still fairly young guys with a full head of hair, hack it all off like that? It's too short, for my liking anyway, but it looks like it was cut with a lawn mower. :D

    Strangely, because I really never found her appealing at all, I was almost having a little bit of a girl-crush on Deb right after she got it together. She looked kind of hot there for a minute.

    I definitely see the doc having something to do with the Brain Surgeon killings but I don't really think it's her. She kind of freaks me out a little. I think it's the actor, though, and not so much the character.
     
  20. DUDE_NJX

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    Quinn is typical WT. No matter what he does, it shows.
     

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