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Dexter S07E12 "Surprise, Motherfckr!" 2012-Dec-16

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by john4200, Dec 17, 2012.

  1. Dec 18, 2012 #41 of 109
    smbaker

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    Moving her to that post has three problems:

    1) She's even more unqualified to be captain than she was to be lieutenant

    2) It removes her from the central location of the series. As soon as LaGuerta became captain, she pretty much disappeared from the spotlight and the moment she came back, she was promptly killed off.

    3) Who would they make lieutenant? Quinn? :eek:
     
  2. Dec 18, 2012 #42 of 109
    waynomo

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    I found the flashbacks distracting, almost like they had some time they had to fill.

    BTW - I did read that season 8 would be the final season. (Don't remember where now.) But it seemed pretty conclusive. I could have sworn they also said they knew how it was going to end.

    And to the point about budgets for shows, the main reason I subscribe to Showtime is for Dexter. I don't know if they can track this info, but it would be a reason to bring it back for a season 9. (Doubting it will happen, but you never know.)
     
  3. Dec 18, 2012 #43 of 109
    waynomo

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    There are a ton of holes that aren't realistic to how real police operate. You happened to notice one. There have been a bunch of times during Dexter that I have said that doesn't make sense except to allow this plot line to develop, etc.

    Just saying all these cop shows on TV are all fiction. They are very loosely based on how the police operate. They take lots of liberties. (The Wire is the one exception from what I understand.)

    Even Masuka coming back with the results of the DNA evidence so quickly is a fiction. It doesn't matter. They needed it to move the plot. The whole timing of arresting Dexter before she had all her ducks in a row doesn't make sense.
     
  4. Dec 18, 2012 #44 of 109
    john4200

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    WTF are you talking about? I noticed "one"? One what, exactly?
     
  5. Dec 18, 2012 #45 of 109
    Idearat

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    Once upon a time I'd cancel HBO when the Sopranos ended, start it back up when it came back.
     
  6. Dec 19, 2012 #46 of 109
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    Just TV or just fiction is a "short cut" way of saying a show doesn't even attempt to be realistic. There are non-fiction shows which are generally accurate (Apollo 13), fiction shows which try to be realistic and shows like Dexter which doesn't see the need to get details correct because it's not that kind of show. Accuracy isn't an element of the show.

    I don't think you can go more then a couple of minutes without finding something which isn't right. Viewers looking for accurate details probably can't enjoy a show like Dexter.

    Getting DNA results faster then possible in "real life" is a technique to collapse the time line in order to tell a story better.
     
  7. Dec 19, 2012 #47 of 109
    waynomo

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    Sorry. One detail that was off. I call that a hole.
     
  8. Dec 19, 2012 #48 of 109
    waynomo

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    BTW - I suppose others noticed this message at the beginning of Sunday's broadcast. I thought this was pretty funny given the show Dexter is. I think everyone knows what they are getting into by watching it. I don't think the tragedy in CT would change that.

    [​IMG]
     
  9. Dec 19, 2012 #49 of 109
    john4200

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    That is not the sort of detail I am talking about.
     
  10. Dec 19, 2012 #50 of 109
    waynomo

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    Exactly. It's convenient for the story. They certainly couldn't have Deb walk through the NYE's crowd with blood on her dress without arousing some suspicion. I am happy to go along with that ride to see where we end up.
     
  11. Dec 19, 2012 #51 of 109
    john4200

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    WTF are you talking about?
     
  12. Dec 19, 2012 #52 of 109
    Hank

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    In order to avoid any type of spoiler for other shows...

    I'm surprised that message wasn't displayed before some other shows that had even more troubling images. I'll just leave it at that, if you know what I'm referring to.
     
  13. Dec 19, 2012 #53 of 109
    waynomo

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    You were complaining about not getting the details right. I was pointing out that these shows all have a ton of holes (details not right) in them. I have no problem going were the writers/directors want me to go. That's just me.

    Which detail(s) bothered you? I don't recall if you mentioned specifics or where just chiming in?

    Did you watch The Wire? I haven't watched by my understanding it was a lot more realistic than most TV cop shows. (I do have the DVDs and plan to watch it.)
     
  14. Dec 19, 2012 #54 of 109
    john4200

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    You're hilarious. :D
     
  15. Dec 19, 2012 #55 of 109
    waynomo

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    Please let me in on the joke.
     
  16. Dec 19, 2012 #56 of 109
    Dan203

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    It's the same flower she gave him at the beginning of the season and has been sitting on his desk, in his apartment, ever since. I think it was just a way for her to tell him she's out and still loves him. I don't think she has any intention of killing Dexter. Deb on the other hand... she definitely seems like the type to want to get the competition out of the way.

    As for the whole end scenario... It was a little contrived. His original plan to stab Estrada and then shot him through the same hole was stupid. I'm sure they'd be able to tell there were two distinct wounds. Also the angles would have been all off. If he had shot LeGuradia with Estrada's gun with both of them on the floor, like he was lining up, it wouldn't have looked like they shot each other like he said. It would have been pretty obvious they were framed. And the way Deb shot LaGuardia on the ground would be pretty obvious as well. If they want it to be forensically feasable I think they'd need to get rid of the bodies, but with Deb calling it in and LaGuardia going after Dexter publically I'm not sure they could do that without serious attention coming their way. I'm actually wondering how they plan to make that work. If they hadn't shown them at the party at the end then they could have done all sorts of stuff, but with that ending they kind of backed themselves into a corner.

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  17. Dec 19, 2012 #57 of 109
    john4200

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    Only someone who pays attention to details would get it.
     
  18. Dec 19, 2012 #58 of 109
    waynomo

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    I do get it now. :D That actually was pretty funny albeit unintentional. I subconsciously do that every now and then.

    And I didn't say I didn't pay attention to the details. I just don't let them get in the way of me enjoying the program.

    I am still curious as to which details bother you.
     
  19. Dec 19, 2012 #59 of 109
    tiams

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    That warning doesn't even make sense. It is worded so it sounds like the show will contain graphic images BECAUSE of the CT tragedy.
     
  20. Dec 19, 2012 #60 of 109
    Cainebj

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    Jennifer Carpenter should be nominated for an Emmy already.
     

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