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Dancing With the Stars 10/11/12

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Cearbhaill, Oct 2, 2012.

  1. Cearbhaill

    Cearbhaill Garden obsessed

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    Ok, so the singers on this show have been on my last nerve since about the second song I ever heard them sing in season one. But this episode truly went the full nine yards clear down to rock bottom with their rendition of Radiohead's classic, Creep.
    I kid you not I literally felt my central nervous system recoil.
    There just are not words.
     
  2. Cainebj

    Cainebj Active Member

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    LOL - it took me a second to realize what they were singing and i just started laughing at the ridiculousness of Creep being performed as a Jive or Quickstep or whatever it was.
     
  3. murgatroyd

    murgatroyd Don't stop believin'

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    We had a big power outage in the middle of the show, so I still haven't finished watching the part of the show that recorded, and I lost the end entirely.

    But the dance gods must be POed with me because despite the blackout, Bristol Palin's dance still got recorded. :(

    So she thinks she's hot stuff for taking Mark to the gun range? I'm not impressed because when her dad was on Stars Earn Stripes
    he got his ass kicked by the girls.
    So there. :p

    Edited to add: what I saw:
    • Melissa and Tony's jive
    • Bristol and Mark's country crapola faux qSabuickstep
    • Helio and Chelsea's jive
    • Apolo and Kirina's quickstep
    • Sabrina and Louis's quickstep
    • Kirstie and Max's jive
    • Emmett and Cheryl's quickstep
    • Drew and Anna's jive
    • Joey and Kym's quickstep
    • Shawn and Derek's jive

    So that means I missed Gilles and Peta, and Kelly and Val.

    Reading "as a Jive or a Quickstep or whatever it was" made me go :eek: when I read your message the first time. Good choreography shouldn't leave you in doubt about what dance they're doing (which Mark Ballas is guilty of, this week).

    But now that I've re-watched Joey and Kym's Quickstep, I can see how music like that could distract you so much that you couldn't remember which dance they had done. On the first viewing, I just said "boy this music sucks", turned off the part of my brain that pays attention to the music, and watched for the performance and technique bits.
     
  4. Cearbhaill

    Cearbhaill Garden obsessed

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    So apparently that Creep was a version done by some yahoo called Richard Cheese and Lounge Against the Machine-



    Yeah, I'm still not over it.
    Major disconnect.
     
  5. murgatroyd

    murgatroyd Don't stop believin'

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    IMHO to do choreography to music which is not ordinary ballroom music, you need to:

    1) use the actual music, not some cheesy rearrangement
    2) do a real show dance, where you can shift dance steps at will to fit the music

    If you try to shoehorn a single dance style into a song, when the song's own rhythm isn't right for it, you get "wallpaper music" instead.

    But when non-ballroom music is used properly, the results can be brilliant.



    As Tony says, the music tells you where you need to go. You MUST go where the music takes you for this to work. You can't be locked into just one dance.

    The only way we could see a show dance like this on DwtS is in the freestyle round, and even then we'll have Wheeler and the awful arrangements mucking things up.

    I will say this for the singers. I don't know if they are actually bad, or it's that Wheeler doesn't know how to place his arrangements in the best part of their ranges. I suspect some of both, but since my vocal training was in junior high school, WTF do I know about it? (Apart from what we all know, that is: the music on the show is horrible.)

    And if you want to do covers which are wildly different from the original, you need better musicians, like The Cranberries (love their cover of "Iron Man" as a torch song) or Brave Combo ("People are Strange" as a polka).

    In any case, you can't have both. You can't do the shoehorn-a-dance-into-the-song crap AND the ridiculous cover with the Harold Wheeler arrangement at the same time.

    It. Just. Doesn't. Work.
     

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