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Daily Ratings thread

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by astrohip, Apr 23, 2012.

  1. astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Overnight ratings for Thursday, October 24, 2013:
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    Time    Net   Show                    18-49          Viewers 
    8:00PM  CBS   The Big Bang Theory     4.9   16       16.47
            FOX   World Series (8-10PM)   3.4   10       12.67
            NBC   The Voice (8-9PM) -R    1.3   4        5.24
            ABC   OUaT in Wonderland      1.1   4        4.34
            CW    The Vampire Diaries     1.1   3        2.50
            
    8:30PM  CBS   The Millers             2.8   8        10.88
                      
    9:00PM  ABC   Grey's Anatomy          2.8   8        8.53
            CBS   The Crazy Ones          2.3   7        8.77
            NBC   Sean Saves the World    1.1   3        4.03
            CW    Reign                   0.6   2        1.84
                      
    9:30PM  CBS   Two and a Half Men      2.3   6        8.42
            NBC   The Michael J Fox Show  1.2   3        3.74
            
    10:00PM ABC   Scandal                 3.0   8        8.65
            CBS   Elementary              1.8   5        8.592
            NBC   Parenthood              1.3   4        3.96
    Comments from TVbytheNumbers:

    FOX was number one with adults 18-49 and with total viewers.

    On FOX, game two of the World Series earned a preliminary 3.4 adults 18-49 rating up from last year’s World Series Game 2 which earned a preliminary 2.9 and was adjusted to 3.5 in the finals.

    On CBS, The Big Bang Theory earned a season low 4.9, down three tenths from last week's 5.2 adults 18-49 rating. The Millers garnered a series low 2.8, down four tenths from last week's 3.2 adults 18-49 rating. The Crazy Ones scored a series low 2.3, down a tenth from last week's 2.4 adults 18-49 rating. Two and a Half Men notched a 2.3, up two tenths from last week's series low 2.1 adults 18-49 rating. Elementary earned a 1.8, up three tenths from last week's series low 1.5 adults 18-49 rating.

    On ABC, Once Upon A Time in Wonderland earned a 1.1, down a tenth from last week's 1.2 adults 18-49 rating. Grey's Anatomy earned a 2.8, up a tenth from last week's 2.7 adults 18-49 rating. Scandal scored a season low 3.0, down three tenths from last week's 3.3 adults 18-49 rating.

    On NBC, Sean Saves the World matched last week's 1.1 adults 18-49 rating. The Michael J Fox Show was even with last week's 1.2 adults 18-49 rating. Parenthood also matched last week's 1.3 adults 18-49 rating .

    On the CW, The Vampire Diaries scored a 1.1, down two tenths from last week's 1.3 adults 18-49 rating. Reign earned a 0.6, down two tenths from last week's 0.8 adults 18-49 rating.
     
  2. astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Article on ratings, the TV biz, and demographics...

    Click thru for the full article
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/enter...king-the-tv-business-20131024,0,2380979.story
     
  3. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey

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    Good article. Pretty much what I've been saying here for awhile now. The TV executives an advertisers are chasing a ghost. Once they wise up, things will change. I think they still believe they can bring back the demo. I'm not sure if that's possible. Statistically it doesn't look like it.
     
  4. Beryl

    Beryl Well-Known Member

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    Elementary does skew older. I need to see what I'm missing.
     
  5. Maui

    Maui Major Lee Oblivious

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    And it still smoked every other program, even the World Series.
     
  6. Azlen

    Azlen Active Member

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    I would be willing to bet it makes a bigger than normal jump when the DVR + 7 numbers are released. I'm sure a few people were watching the World Series while recording the shows they normally watch.
     
  7. astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Overnight broadcast primetime ratings for Friday, October 25, 2013

    Code:
    Time    Net     Show                18-49         Viewers Live+SD 
    8:00PM  CBS     Undercover Boss     1.6  6        8.58
            FOX     MasterChef Jr       1.4  5        3.85
            NBC     Dateline (8-9PM)    1.3  5        6.07
            ABC     Last Man Standing-R 1.0  4        5.02
            CW      The Carrie Diaries  0.3  1        0.84
                        
    8:30PM  ABC     The Neighbors -R    0.7  3        3.52
                        
    9:00PM  ABC     Shark Tank          2.0  7        7.32
            NBC     Grimm -P            1.8  6        6.13
            CBS     Hawaii Five-0       1.4  5        9.32
            FOX     the Simpsons -R     0.8  3        1.93
            CW      iHeartRadio:KPerry  0.2  1        0.71
                        
    9:30PM  FOX     The Simpsons -R     0.7  2        1.78
                        
    10:00PM NBC     Dracula -P          1.8  6        5.28
            ABC     20/20               1.5  5        6.68
            CBS     Blue Bloods         1.3  4        11.02
    Comments from TVbytheNumbers:

    NBC was number one in adults 18-49 but CBS won with total viewers.

    On NBC, Dateline earned a x from last week's 1.3 adults 18-49 rating. The season premiere of Grimm earned a 1.8,up from last year's Friday premiere (which earned a 1.6 adults 18-49 rating) but down two tenths from last year's Monday season debut which earned a 2.0 adults 18-49 rating. The series premiere of Dracula also earned a 1.8 adults 18-49 rating and is NBC’s highest in-season 18-49 rating in the slot, (excluding breaking news coverage) since January 4. Your predictions for both were spot on!

    On ABC, Shark Tank matched last week's 2.0 adults 18-49 rating 20/20 garnered a 1.5, up three tenths from the previous week's 1.2 adults 18-49 rating.

    On CBS, Undercover Boss earned a 1.6, down two tenths from last week's 1.8 adults 18-49 rating. Hawaii Five-0 matched last week's 1.4 adults 18-49 rating. Blue Bloods matched last week's 1.3 among adults 18-49.

    On FOX, MasterChef Junior scored a 1.4, up a tenth from last week's 1.3 adults 18-49 rating.

    On The CW, The Carrie Diaries earned a paltry 0.3 adults 18-49 rating, down from last season's 0.6 series premiere rating and also down a tenth from the 0.4 adults 18-49 rating last season's finale earned. The iHeartRadio Katy Perry special earned a 0.2 adults 18-49 rating.
     
  8. aindik

    aindik Well-Known Member

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    I'll put this in the ratings thread rather than the baseball thread:
    I'm wondering if the "Friday = TV death" rule applies to live sports that are viewed in bars (usually with the sound off). Does viewing in bars count in the ratings and, if not, I wonder if advertisers account for it some other way.

    The reason I ask is that Major League Baseball started the World Series on a Wednesday instead of a Tuesday, and the only reason I can think of was to avoid having a game on Friday. (They'd have had a game on Saturday regardless). But in exchange for no Friday game, they have to go head to head against the NFL four times out of a potential 7 games (Thursday Game 2, Sunday Game 4, Monday Game 5, Thursday Game 7). Had they started on Tuesday they'd only have gone up against the NFL once (Sunday Game 5).

    Are the ratings so bad on Friday that they make up for the ratings loss from competing against the NFL on three extra nights?
     
  9. MikeCC

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    I don't think the Nielsen sampling allows for commercial placement of their boxes. I don't know that for sure, but it makes sense, since one of the measures used is "households."

    If that is the case, then, viewing in bars have no effect on the ratings.
     
  10. aindik

    aindik Well-Known Member

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    Does Nielsen monitor people, or just TVs?

    IOW, in radio, the ratings aren't taken by attaching something to the radio. They're taken by the person carrying around a device that listens for encoded sounds, no matter what radio they're coming from. Anything similar in TV? If so, do they require the sound to be on?

    Before the people meters in radio, ratings were taken by diary. That too would have included bar viewing if the TV ratings were taken like that.
     
  11. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give em Hell, Devils

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    When someone is selected as a Nielsen household, Nielsen comes in and attaches devices to every piece of electronics in the house that is capable of receiving a TV signal. Then there is a box connected to each of those device that allow the household members to select who is in the room. There are preprogrammed buttons for each of the members of the household. There are usually some extra buttons for guests. So the device records any time the TV is on and a show is being watched, and it's up to the user(s) to indicate which household members are in the room.

    Apparently, some of the reporting is done based on the audio signal. When I was selected several years ago, they came in and started doing the installation, they were going to clip some kind of device to the speaker wires that carried the sound from my receiver to my speakers. I then explained that I did a lot of TV watching with wireless headphones and the sound muted. They couldn't figure out any way for their systems to properly record that type of TV watching, so I was deemed ineligible.
     
  12. aindik

    aindik Well-Known Member

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    But shows a Neilsen family member watches while outside the home are not recorded?
     
  13. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give em Hell, Devils

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    I believe there is a way for a Nielsen household member to manually record shows watched outside the house. That would be similar to the diaries that you mentioned for radio and that are still used for recording sweeps ratings in many markets.

    As for how they determine which family member is watching which shows, the box has several buttons and there is one pre-programmed for each household member. So when that person enters the room, they're supposed to hit the button and then hit it again when they leave the room. Everything that is viewed while that person's button is pushed is deemed to have been watched by that person.
     
  14. aindik

    aindik Well-Known Member

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    So, a Nielsen family member who watches the World Series while at a bar would count in the ratings if the person remembered to manually record it.

    As for the second question, I deleted it in a ninja edit when I reread and saw you answered it. :)
     
  15. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give em Hell, Devils

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    I believe that is the case as I'm pretty sure that's what they explained to me when I was being considered to be a Nielsen household. But it's possible I am remembering that wrong.

    Yes, I saw that, but I had already written my explanation and I figured it provided more info than the first post, so I just left it there.
     
  16. astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Broadcast primetime ratings for Monday, October 28, 2013:
    Code:
    Time  Net   Show                       18-49     Viewers (millions)
    8:00  NBC   The Voice (8-10PM)         4.2/11    12.97
          FOX   World Series               3.8/10    13.19
          CBS   How I Met Your Mother      2.9/8      7.63
          ABC   DWTS (8-10PM)              2.0/5     12.97
          CW    Hart Of Dixie              0.4/1      1.13
                                                     
    8:30  CBS   2 Broke Girls              2.6/7      7.60
                                                     
    9:00  CBS   The Big Bang Theory - R    2.5/6      7.94
          CW    Beauty & the Beast         0.3/1      0.87
                                                     
    9:30  CBS   Mom                        2.1/5      6.61
                                                     
    10:00 NBC   The Blacklist              3.1/8     10.66
          ABC   Castle                     2.1/5     10.68
          CBS   Hostages                   1.3/3      4.95
    Comments from TVbytheNumbers:

    NOTE: Due to the nature of live programming the ratings for Fox (World Series) are approximate and subject to more than the typical adjustments in the final numbers. Last night’s Monday Night Football game (Seattle at St. Louis) was simulcast on the CW affiliate in St. Louis. As a result, CW numbers may be inflated and subject to more than typical adjustments in the finals.

    NBC and FOX tied for number one in Adults 18-49 while FOX was on top with total viewers.

    On FOX, game five of the World Series garnered a 3.8 preliminary adults 18-49 rating, even with Game 5 of the 2011 series (the most recent game 5) but down 14 percent from a preliminary 4.4 for game 4.

    On NBC, the first night of the knockout rounds on The Voice earned a 4.2 down 2 percent from last week's 4.3 adults 18-49 rating. The Blacklist garnered a 3.1 up 3 percent from last week's 3.0 adults 18-49 rating.

    On CBS, How I Met Your Mother earned a 2.9 down 3 percent from last week's 3.0 adults 18-49 rating. 2 Broke Girls scored a 2.6 up 4 percent from last week's 2.5 adults 18-49 rating. Mom garnered a from last week's 2.3 adults 18-49 rating. Hostages notched a 1.3 up 8 percent from last week's series low 1.2 adults 18-49 rating.

    On ABC, Dancing With the Stars matched last week's 2.0 adults 18-49 rating, and tied its lowest rated Monday telecast ever. Castle notched a 2.1 up 11 percent from last week's season low 1.9 adults 18-49 rating.

    On the CW, Hart Of Dixie matched last week’s 0.4. BEAUTY AND THE BEAST matched last week's 0.3 adults 18-49 rating.
     
  17. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey

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    I'm sad that the World Series cannot even beat The Voice.
     
  18. lambertman

    lambertman To see you, Nice

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    Note that it also went up against MNF, which took 10.7 million sports-leaning eyeballs away.
     
  19. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey

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    Very true.

    Speaking of which. How does the ratings take into account channel surfing? I constantly channel surf, especially during sporting events. So for instance, Monday night there was the WS game, a hockey game I wanted to watch and the MNF game. So I was surfing between all of them during commercial breaks and so forth (and using my PIP too).
     
  20. astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Broadcast primetime ratings for Tuesday, October 29, 2013:

    Code:
    Time   Net    Show                       18-49 Rat/Sh    Viewers (Millions)
    8:00   CBS    NCIS                       3.0/9           18.98
           FOX    The X Factor (8-10PM)      1.5/4            4.76
           NBC    The Biggest Loser          1.8/5            5.95
           ABC    S.H.I.E.L.D. - R           1.2/4            4.26
           CW     The Originals              0.9/3            2.02
                                                              
    9:00   NBC    The Voice (9-11PM)         3.5/10          11.42
           CBS    NCIS: Los Angeles          2.6/7           14.76
           ABC    The Goldbergs              1.7/4            5.37
           CW     Supernatural               1.1/3            2.16
                                                              
    9:30   ABC    Trophy Wife                1.4/4            4.28
                                                              
    10:00  CBS    Person Of Interest         1.8/5           11.90
           ABC    Shark Tank - R             1.0/3            3.25
    Comments from TVbytheNumbers:

    NBC was the number one network in adults 18-49 while CBS was on top with total viewers.

    On NBC, The Biggest Loser earned a season low 1.8 down 10 percent from last week's 2.0 adults 18-49 rating. A two hour episode of The Voice scored a season low 3.5 down 18 percent from last week's 4.1 adults 18-49 rating.

    On CBS NCIS matched last week's 3.0 adults 18-49 rating. NCIS: Los Angeles garnered a 2.6 up 4 percent from last week's 2.5 adults 18-49 rating. Person Of Interest earned a series low 1.8 down 18 percent from last week's 2.2 adults 18-49 rating.

    On ABC, The Goldbergs earned as 1.7 adults 18-49 rating, matching last week's performance when it had a new episode of Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. as a lead-in. Trophy Wife garnered a 1.4 up 17 percent from last week's series low 1.2 adults 18-49 rating.

    On FOX, a special Tuesday episode of The X Factor scored a 1.5 down 25 percent from a 2.0 for its most recent episode on Thursday, October 10.

    On the CW, The Originals matched last week's 0.9 adults 18-49 rating. Supernatural garnered a 1.1 adults 18-49 rating, even with last week.
     

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