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Daily Ratings thread

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by astrohip, Apr 23, 2012.

  1. Mar 15, 2013 #761 of 2557
    Azlen

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    Oops yeah I mixed that up. Just trying to say that AI is no longer one of those "cheap" reality shows. It has much higher than normal production costs for a reality show and is on par with many scripted programs.
     
  2. Mar 15, 2013 #762 of 2557
    aindik

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    I think per hour is a better comparison than per episode. American Idol costs $1.33 million per hour.
     
  3. Mar 15, 2013 #763 of 2557
    JYoung

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    Mad Men was estimated at being at $2.5 million per episode last year.

    Supernatural is estimated at $2 to 2.2 million per episode and those two shows are on lesser networks.
    Those figures would go up if they were first run on Fox.

    Fringe (which ran on Fox) was estimated at $4 million an episode.

    Even Two and Half Men probably pays close to $2 million per episode just for the actors' salaries.

    I agree because Fox needs around 13 hours of product a week to fill.
    (I say around 13 because of Football.)

    A freshman 30 minute comedy like The Mindy Project may come in cheaper per episode than AI, but it's also delivering less time-wise as well.

    Yes, AI has gotten expensive for a reality show, but I agree with aindik that it's much cheaper that scripted shows when compared on a per hour basis.
     
  4. Mar 15, 2013 #764 of 2557
    DreadPirateRob

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    The amazing thing is thinking about how expensive some network shows have been in the past, when the audience/ratings were much higher. For instance, the principal Friends actors each earned $1M per episode in the last 2 seasons of the show. That's $6M per ep in lead salary alone, not to mention guest stars, etc., for only a half hour worth of television 22 times a season.

    Of course, by that time the show was well into syndication (it would have hit the 100-episode mark in the 5th season), so the producers were really raking it in at that point.
     
  5. Mar 15, 2013 #765 of 2557
    WhiskeyTango

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    They already do, it's just that the advertisers don't really care. It doesn't do them much good if you watch a car commercial for a July 4th sale on July 10th.
     
  6. Mar 15, 2013 #766 of 2557
    Azlen

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    I wonder what Kitchen Nightmares, the Sing Off, the Bachelor etc. cost. Those are the shows that I am comparing AI to. Those are the cheap reality shows. All I am saying is that AI isn't a cheap reality show anymore. It's still expensive to produce and that has nothing to do with the money that it's making.
     
  7. Mar 15, 2013 #767 of 2557
    DevdogAZ

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    This happens every spring for the first couple weeks after daylight savings starts.
    I think you guys are talking about two different things and mixing them up. Production costs is one figure, and supposedly that's $2 million per episode. Then there's the licensing cost, which is what the network pays to the producers/studio for the right to air the show. We don't know what that is, but I guarantee it's much higher than $2 million per episode.

    Then there's the other issue that American Idol has significantly more episodes per season than any other network show. Cable shows typically have 10-16 episodes per season. Network shows usually have 13-22 episodes per season. Idol has over 30 episodes per season, so it's much easier for them to amortize the high salaries when they have that many episodes.
     
  8. Mar 15, 2013 #768 of 2557
    mattack

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    But they were driving around on the street.. I just meant that I thought they'd have to go through security again.. Wouldn't that take way more than 10 mins?
     
  9. Mar 16, 2013 #769 of 2557
    zalusky

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    How often does that happen!

    Just like "if you call in the next 10 minutes".

    Shows are repeated over multiple sessions now and the cable channels have all the good scripted shows!

    The advertisers and the networks better start changing their business model or they will fade away. They say Netflix is now consuming a 1/3 of internet bandwidth. The new world is not to be ignored.
     
  10. Mar 18, 2013 #770 of 2557
    astrohip

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    Broadcast primetime ratings for Sunday, March 17, 2013:

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    Time    Net     Show                        18-49           Viewers 
    7:00    CBS     60 Minutes                  1.6/5           10.07
            ABC     America's Funniest HV - R   1.4/5           6.19
            NBC     Dateline (7-9PM)            1.3/4           5.54
            FOX     Bob's Burgers - R           0.7/2           1.84
                    
    7:30    FOX     The Cleveland Show          1.2/4           2.84
                    
    8:00    CBS     The Amazing Race            2.2/6           8.77
            ABC     Once Upon A Time            2.2/6           7.23
            FOX     The Simpsons                2.1/6           4.84
                    
    8:30    FOX     The Cleveland Show          1.8/5           3.99
                    
    9:00    FOX     Family Guy                  2.3/6           4.88
            ABC     Revenge                     1.8/4           6.45
            NBC     Celebrity Apprentice        1.8/5           5.46
            CBS     The Good Wife               1.5/4           9.02
                    
    9:30    FOX     Bob's Burgers               1.6/4           3.52
                    
    10:00   CBS     The Mentalist               1.6/4           9.79
            ABC     Red Widow                   1.0/3           4.38
    comments from TVbytheNumbers:

    CBS was number one among adults 18-49 and with total viewers.

    On CBS, 60 Minutes garnered a 1.6 adults 18-49 rating, even with last week. The Amazing Race scored a 2.2 among adults 18-49, down 8 percent from last week's 2.4 rating. The Good Wife earned a 1.5 adults 18-49 rating, even with last week. The Mentalist notched a 1.6 adults 18-49 rating down 6 percent from last week's 1.7 among adults 18-49.

    On FOX, The Cleveland Show earned a 1.2 down 25 percent from its last Sunday at 7:30PM original's 1.6 on March 3. The Simpsons scored a 2.1 down 5 percent from last week's 2.2 adults 18-49 rating. The Cleveland Show garnered a 1.8 adults 18-49 rating, even with last week. Family Guy earned a 2.3 adults 18-49 rating down 15 percent from last week’s 2.7. Bob’s Burgers scored a 1.6 down 11 percent from last week's 1.8 adults 18-49 rating.

    On ABC, Once Upon A Time tied its series low with a 2.2 down 4 percent from last week's 2.3 adults 18-49 rating. Your predictions were a little optimistic. Revenge earned a 1.8 down 10 percent from last week’s 2.0. Red Widow earned a 1.0 down 9 percent from last week's 1.1 adults 18-49 premiere rating.

    On NBC, Dateline earned a 1.3 adults 18-49 rating even with its last Sunday episode on March 3. Celebrity Apprentice garnered 1.8 adults 18-49 rating, even with last week.
     
  11. Mar 18, 2013 #771 of 2557
    JYoung

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    Oh, yeah, well I didn't actually see the show so I can only guess but perhaps there was some creative editing and it wasn't the participants actually "driving around in the streets".

    Or the producers made an arrangement with security to hustle them through.
     
  12. Mar 19, 2013 #772 of 2557
    Church AV Guy

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    What happened to Friday March 15?
     
  13. Mar 19, 2013 #773 of 2557
    astrohip

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    Final broadcast primetime ratings for Friday, March 15, 2013:

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    Time    Net     Show                        18-49      Viewers 
    8:00    ABC     Last Man Standing           1.4/5       6.43
            CBS     Undercover Boss - R         1.2/5       5.86
            FOX     Kitchen Nightmares          1.1/4       3.03
            NBC     Fashion Star                0.7/3       2.75
            CW      Nikita                      0.4/2       1.21
                    
    8:30    ABC     Malibu Country              1.1/4       5.60
                    
    9:00    ABC     Shark Tank - R (9-10:01PM)  1.5/5       5.60
            NBC     Grimm (9-10:01PM)           1.4/5       4.91
            CBS     Hawaii Five=-0 - R          0.9/3       5.55
            FOX     Touch                       0.6/2       2.22
            CW      Cult                        0.2/1       0.72
                    
    10:00   CBS     Blue Bloods                 1.4/5       10.41
            ABC     20/20 (10:01-11PM)          1.4/4       5.46
            NBC     Rock Center                 0.6/2       2.80
    comments from TVbytheNumbers:

    {prelim comments}
    ABC and CBS tied for number one in adults 18-49 while CBS was on top with total viewers.

    Please Note: On the first Friday of Daylight Saving Time, overall Adult 18-49 TV usage was down -5% on the night, with even sharper declines from 7-8pm (-8%) and from 9-10pm (-6%). Plus, while we haven't received any specific information, there were likely plenty of local pre-emptions for college basketball last night. Adjustments in the final ratings are likely to be more significant than usual.

    On ABC, Last Man Standing earned a 1.3, down two tenths from last week's 1.5 adults 18-49 rating. Malibu Country garnered a 1.0, down three tenths from last week's 1.3 adults 18-49 rating. 20/20 earned a 1.4, down two tenths after last week's 1.6 adults 18-49 rating.

    On CBS, Blue Bloods garnered a 1.7, up three tenths from last week's 1.4 among adults 18-49.

    On NBC Fashion Star was even with last week's 0.8 adults 18-49 rating. Grimm scored a 1.4, down a tenth from last week's 1.5 adults 18-49 rating. Rock Center garnered a 0.7, down two tenths from last week's 0.9 among adults 18-49.

    On Fox, Kitchen Nightmares earned a 1.1, down a tenth from last week's 1.2, and Touch earned a 0.6, down a tenth from last week's 0.7 rating.

    On the CW, Nikita earned a 0.5 adults 18-49 rating up two tenths from last week’s 0.3. Cult scored a 0.3, up a tenth from last week's 0.2 among adults 18-49.

    {final adjustments}
    Last Man Standing and Malibu Country were each adjusted up a tenth while Fashion Star, Nikita, Cult and Rock Center were each adjusted down a tenth and Blue Bloods was adjusted down three tenths among adults 18-49 versus Friday's preliminary ratings.
     
  14. Mar 19, 2013 #774 of 2557
    astrohip

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    Broadcast primetime ratings for Monday, March 18, 2013:
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    Time    Net     Show                                18-49       Viewers 
    8:00    ABC     DWTS (8-10PM) - Season Premiere     3.1/8       16.76
            CBS     How I Met Your Mother               2.9/9       7.35
            NBC     Biggest Loser  - Season Finale      2.6/7       7.33
            FOX     Bones                               2.0/6       7.31
            CW      The Carrie Diaries                  0.5/1       1.04
                    
    8:30    CBS     Rules of Engagement                 2.2/6       6.63
                    
    9:00    CBS     2 Broke Girls                       2.7/7       8.35
            FOX     The Following                       2.4/6       7.09
            CW      Hart Of Dixie - R                   0.2/0       0.51
                    
    9:30    CBS     Mike & Molly                        2.4/6       8.23
                    
    10:00   ABC     Castle                              2.2/6       11.23
            CBS     Hawaii Five-0                       2.1/6       8.75
            NBC     Deception - Season Finale           1.3/3       3.52
    comments from TVbytheNumbers:

    ABC was number one with adults 18-49 and with total viewers.

    On ABC, the season premiere of Dancing With the Stars garnered a 3.1 adults 18-49 rating down 11 percent from a 3.5 for last spring’s season premiere on March 19, 2012. However, it delivered ABC’s second highest Adult 18-49 rating in the 2 hour time period since April 23, 2012. Castle earned a 2.2 adults 18-49 rating, down 4 percent from a 2.3 for its most recent original episode on February 25.

    On FOX, Bones earned a 2.0 adults 18-49 rating down 9 percent from a 2.2 its most recent new episode on March 4. The Following scored a 2.4 down 11 percent from last week's 2.7 adults 18-49 rating.

    On CBS, How I Met Your Mother earned a 2.9 adults 18-49 rating down 12 percent from a 3.3 for its most recent new episode on February 25. Rules of Engagement garnered a 2.2 up 5 percent from last week's season low 2.1 adults 18-49 rating. 2 Broke Girls scored a series low 2.7 adults 18-49 rating down 18 percent from a 3.3 on February 25. Mike & Molly notched a season low 2.4 down 11 percent from. A 2.7 on February 25. Hawaii Five-0 earned a 2.1 adults 18-49 rating up 5 percent from a 2.0 on February 18.

    On NBC, The Biggest Loser season finale notched a 2.6 up 30 percent from last week’s 2.0 adults 18-49 rating and up 18 percent from a 2.2 for last spring’s finale on May 1, 2012. The Deception season – and likely series – finale earned a 1.2 up 9 percent from last week's 1.1 adults 18-49 rating.

    On the CW, The Carrie Diaries scored a 0.5 up 25 percent from last week's 0.4 adults 18-49 rating.
     
  15. Mar 19, 2013 #775 of 2557
    astrohip

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    The power of DWTS (combined with the generally lethargic ratings that the time change seems to have caused)...
     
  16. Mar 20, 2013 #776 of 2557
    astrohip

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    Broadcast primetime ratings for Tuesday March 19, 2013
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    Time    Net     Show                        18-49           Viewers 
    8:00    CBS     NCIS                        3.1/10          19.09
            ABC     Splash                      2.6/8           8.80
            FOX     Hell's Kitchen              2.0/6           4.85
            NBC     Betty White's OTR           1.0/3           3.71
            CW      iHeart Radio Album          0.4/1           1.08
                    
    8:30    NBC     Betty White's OTR           1.1/3           3.70
                    
    9:00    CBS     NCIS: Los Angeles           2.8/8           16.59
            FOX     New Girl                    2.2/6           4.20
            ABC     Dancing with the Stars      2.1/6           9.58
            NBC     Go On                       1.0/3           2.86
            CW      Beauty And The Beast - R    0.2/0           0.53
                    
    9:30    FOX     The Mindy Project           1.7/4           3.16
            NBC     The New Normal              0.7/2           2.10
                    
    10:00   CBS     Golden Boy                  1.7/5           9.26
            ABC     Body Of Proof               1.5/4           8.25
            NBC     Smash                       0.8/2           2.65
    comments from TVbytheNumbers:

    CBS was the number one network in adults 18-49 and with total viewers.

    On CBS, NCIS earned a 3.1 adults 18-49 rating down 9 percent from a 3.4 for its most recent new episode on March 5. NCIS: Los Angeles garnered a 2.8 among adults 18-49 even with its performance on March 5. Golden Boy earned a 1.7 adults 18-49 rating up 13 percent from last week’s 1.5.

    On ABC, the series premiere of Splash garnered a 2.6 adults 18-49 rating up 13 percent from a 2.3 for the seeries premiere of Celebrity Wife Swap on January 3, 2012. Your predictions were way too pessimistic. It was ABC’s biggest unscripted debut in more than two years and the network’s best performance in the time period since October 18, 2011. Dancing with the Stars: Exclusive First Look earned a 2.1 adults 18-49 rating, up 5 percent from a 2.0 for last spring’s DWTS: the Story So Far on March 27, 2012. Body Of Proof scored a season high 1.5 adults 18-49 rating up 25 percent from last week’s 1.2.

    On FOX, Hell’s Kitchen scored a 2.0 adults 18-49 rating down 5 percent from a 2.1 for last week’s premiere. New Girl scored a 2.2 among adults 18-49 down 4 percent from a 2.3 for its last original episode on February 26. The Mindy Project garnered a 1.7 adults 18-49 rating even with its last original episode on February 26.

    On NBC, Betty White’s Off Their Rockers notched a 1.0 adults 18-49 rating down 23 percent from a 1.3 for its last original 8PM episode on February 26. A second episode at 8:30 garnered a 1.1 up 22 percent from last week’s 0.9. Go On earned a series low 1.0 adults 18-49 rating down 9 percent from two weeks ago. The New Normal scored a series low 0.7 adults 18-49 rating down 22 percent from March 5. Smash matched its series low with a 0.8 adults 18-49 rating down 11 percent from last week’s 0.9.

    On the CW, the special The iHeartRadio Album Release Party With Justin Timberlake scored a 0.4 adults 18-49 rating versus Hart Of Dixie’s 0.6 in the time period on February 26.
     
  17. Mar 20, 2013 #777 of 2557
    DevdogAZ

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    It will be interesting to see what happens to Go On for the rest of the season when it has The Voice as a lead in again like it did in the fall.
     
  18. Mar 20, 2013 #778 of 2557
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    "Go On" will only air after "The Voice" next week. Then it's shuffled off to Thursdays for it's final two episodes on 2 subsequent weeks.

    "The New Normal" will air it's final two episodes back-to-back after "The Voice" on Tuesday, April 2nd.

    With "Smash" moving to Saturdays starting April 6th, that leaves Tuesday wide open except for "The Voice" on NBC. I don't know what else they're airing there... except for the assumed extended-length episodes of "Voice".

    EDIT: "Ready for Love" is airing Tuesdays also, I forgot.
     
  19. Mar 20, 2013 #779 of 2557
    Azlen

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    I think that NBC would like to air the Voice 5 nights a week if they could. I say that somewhat facetiously but there's probably more truth in that than not.
     
  20. Mar 20, 2013 #780 of 2557
    aindik

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    NCAA games on TruTV last night got about a million viewers.
     

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