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Discussion in 'TiVo Home Media Features & TiVoToGo' started by mackworth, Apr 19, 2013.

  1. Mar 22, 2014 #61 of 179
    BankZ

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    Is this still actively under development? Would people recommend this over kmttg for the mac? Can you delete shows with this?
     
  2. Mar 24, 2014 #62 of 179
    chmedly

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    I'm not having much luck. Been trying to get comskip and the handbrake formats to create chapter marks and most of the time the resulting file is just one chapter. And even if it did work, I'm hoping to stream my shows back to my tv with a chromecast which will likely require dlna streaming and dlna doesn't really support chapters. So, I'm a bit stuck at the moment. I'm curious if there is a way to modify the h.264 formats that come in ctivo to encode with different audio settings. Does anyone have a custom format they might be willing to share? Is there an online repository of custom ctivo formats?
     
  3. Mar 25, 2014 #63 of 179
    javabird

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    Is anyone else having trouble with Audio synch issues? cTivo worked perfectly for me until I upgraded to a new MacBook Pro (OS 10.9.2). Now having synch issues, especially on PBS channel. Have tried using both AppleTV and Handbrake settings.
     
  4. Mar 26, 2014 #64 of 179
    tannebil

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    I'm not aware of any options for actually cutting commercials in OS X but have not looked that closely since cTiVo chapter stops are exactly what I want. My guess is that you'd need to integrate something from Windows into your process using a virtual machine. I've used VideoRedo quite a bit on Windows and it works pretty well. On all the programs that actually cut the commercials, you've got to be willing to accept that on occasion, you are going to lose some of the material as well. No auto detect program is going to be 100%.

    Are your programs SD or HD? I've found the commercial marking to work much better with HD shows.
     
  5. Mar 26, 2014 #65 of 179
    tannebil

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    Have you tried downloading the native file and manually ripping it in Handbrake? If the native file doesn't have the problem and the Handbrake rip does, you can get some help over on the Handbrake forums. Make sure you read about the problem submittal process on the HB forums. They can be a little prickly if you don't submit all the required information in the your post.

    If it's happening with both Handbrake and the other encoder option, it sounds more like an OS X configuration problem.
     
  6. Mar 26, 2014 #66 of 179
    javabird

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    That's a great idea. I will try that.
     
  7. Mar 26, 2014 #67 of 179
    chmedly

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    HD television shows mostly. What I'm working with now is:
    A) itivo on a snow leopard computer (osX 10.6.8) since itivo has the decrypt/copy option
    B) manually convert with handbrake (still experimenting if this is necessary)
    C) serve with plex media server
    D) plex android app on my handset for control
    E) Chromecast back to my TV setup

    This seems like it will work but I'm finding that my 10.6.8 computer doesn't seem to hold up to the on the fly transcoding (Plex transcodes for the sake of Chromecast compatibility). During my tests so far it pauses every once in awhile during the show. I'm experimenting with different handbrake options to find something that works well. I do think I'll eventually want to move to the latest os (10.9) so I wish that ctivo had a decrypt option that would cut commercials like the old itivo does.
     
  8. Mar 27, 2014 #68 of 179
    tannebil

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    A Snow Leopard machine is going to be a tough row to hoe. cTiVo seems to like fast hardware and support teams like more recent software. I updated my 2011 dual core Mini to a 2012 quad core Mini and reliability improved dramatically.

    You might be able to tweak cTiVo to leave a comskip "cut" file that you can use to cut the file. Use cTiVo to do the download and build your own process to mark and cut the commercials. Comskip can be extracted easily enough from the cTiVo package if trying to hack it in cTiVo gets too ugly.

    It feel like you are trying to do things the hard way. If you are not targeting the Apple ecosystem, maybe you should just drop $400 on a Windows box that will run circles around a Snow Leopard era Mac. There are lots more tools available in Windows to do what you want. cTiVo is a great solution if you want something that "just works" but you have greater ambitions. I had a solid Windows process that I abandoned for cTiVo because I got tired of the support work and wanted to get out of Windows but it was faster and more flexible than cTiVo will ever be.
     
  9. Mar 28, 2014 #69 of 179
    javabird

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    The audio was out of synch in the decrypted file - checked a few other PBS downloads and it seems it's a problem with that station especially.
     
  10. Mar 29, 2014 #70 of 179
    rjgibson0066

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    Any ideas why my Tivo is listed in cTivo but none of my recorded shows are?

    [​IMG]
     
  11. Mar 30, 2014 #71 of 179
    tannebil

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    Never heard of that problem before. Have you looked in the log files? Try increasing the logging level and restarting cTiVo.
     
  12. Mar 31, 2014 #72 of 179
    tannebil

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    AKAIK, the developers are still working on it. It went through a busy six month period getting to a solid release but there hasn't been an update since last July. It's quite stable and reliable (at least for me) so the lack of recent activity has not been an issue. There are things that don't work for people and there's some give and take over in the code repository.

    https://code.google.com/p/ctivo/

    I used kmttg a bit and it worked OK. Lots of options and fiddly bits for people that enjoy that sort of thing. cTiVo is more a "just works" kind of program. If it does what you want, it's great. If you want to do something a bit different, it's not as flexible. I think most of the kmttg activity is in Windows rather than OS X.

    I'm not aware of any way to delete shows off a TiVo with cTiVo or any other PC/Mac program.
     
  13. Apr 7, 2014 #73 of 179
    jrs1968

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    Hi-

    Is there any way to boost the volume with cTivo? I was watching a couple of transferred shows on the airplane and I had to have the volume maxed out to even hear anything.
     
  14. Apr 7, 2014 #74 of 179
    tannebil

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    You can try creating a custom Handbrake encode and tweaking the setting for dynamic range and/or gain.

    -D, --drc <float> Apply extra dynamic range compression to the audio,
    making soft sounds louder. Range is 1.0 to 4.0
    (too loud), with 1.5 - 2.5 being a useful range.
    Separated by commas for more than one audio track.
    --gain <float> Amplify or attenuate audio before encoding. Does
    NOT work with audio passthru (copy). Values are in
    dB. Negative values attenuate, positive values
    amplify. A 1 dB difference is barely audible.
     
  15. Apr 7, 2014 #75 of 179
    jrs1968

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    yeah, but won't that break comskip?
     
  16. Apr 7, 2014 #76 of 179
    tannebil

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    No. Comskip works fine with Handbrake encodes.
     
  17. Apr 11, 2014 #77 of 179
    mackworth

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    @chemedly. My apologies and thanks to tannebil for his help; I haven't been getting notifications of messages here, so just happened to check today. To answer several of your questions:

    1) AFAIK, mencoder does not handle 5.1 transfer, but I'm not an expert. If you find out differently on their sites, you can easily add a cTiVo format that will provide whatever command line they need. Let us know and we'll add it to the core formats as well.

    2) Handbrake cannot take a SRT file and cut the file for you, as mencoder can. Unlike that video editing, cTiVo itself optionally adds the commercial mark track after conversion for any MP4 file. I agree with tannebil that process is much better than cutting, as any mistakes by comskip are a problem that can't be fixed after cutting.

    3) Telling cTiVo that Handbrake can skip commercials only causes the command line options to Handbrake, it won't actually get it to do it.

    4) No need to pause the queue, just select the skip option in either Preferences or the menu to get it to apply that option to all future selections.

    Finally, "if there is a way to modify the h.264 formats that come in ctivo to encode with different audio settings". Yes, you should be able to use any of the encoders with any command settings you want; however, we cTiVo developers are NOT experts on those settings. We inherited a bunch with iTiVo and have updated them as we've gotten information from the field. So...if you find a setting that does what you want from those communities, you should be able to use it with cTiVo. Would love to have you submit that kind of information back to the site.
     
  18. Apr 11, 2014 #78 of 179
    mackworth

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    Well, one possibility is that those are all either copy-protected, or TiVo Suggestions. Both of those can be filtered (or not) in the Options menu, but they will still show up in the TiVo's count. (You can also do a Find which will filter, but your screenshot obviously shows that isn't the case here).

    If that's not it, that's very odd. The count shows that we've received the show's information, so if it's not showing in the table, that's very strange. Let me know and we'll figure it out.
     
  19. Apr 11, 2014 #79 of 179
    mackworth

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    Yes, it is actively under development and support. Like many open-source projects, we had to move from googleCode, as they are going to cut off downloading. It's now at:

    https://github.com/dscottbuch/cTiVo

    And there's a beta release of the next version there.

    Versus kmttg, as one of cTiVo's developers, I might be a tad biased. :) On the other hand, I use kmttg regularly as well. tannebill is correct; our target was to rewrite and update iTiVo's file transfer ability, making it faster and more comprehensive without losing its ease of use. So we have a lot more Mac-like features (drag/drop, view in Finder, etc) with more simplicity and automation than KMTTG (no need to load details etc), but we don't support any TiVo management or remote control features (such as deleting files), and obviously, we're Mac only.
     
  20. Apr 11, 2014 #80 of 179
    mackworth

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    Well, first, we don't support Snow Leopard at all. That's very surprising, though. I didn't know that path would work with iTiVo. It must run it through an encoder to do that; which one is being called?

    So, I pulled up the original iTiVo formats, and you're right. There is one called decrypt/copy that does support comskip. Basically, it's running it through mencoder with the following options, so you could create the same format in cTiVo:

    VideoOptions: -ovc copy -of mpeg -mpegopts format=mpeg2:tsaf:muxrate=36000 -noskip -mc 0 -forceidx

    AudioOptions: -oac copy
    OtherOptions: -hr-edl-seek
    iTunes: false
    Comskip: Yes
     

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