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Cox Las Vegas CableCARD install, but no SDV Tuning Adapter?

Discussion in 'TiVo Help Center' started by Amiga, Nov 22, 2010.

  1. phipsi1237

    phipsi1237 New Member

    Feb 26, 2006
    North Las...
    I called Cox yesterday to add a phone (cheaper w/bundle) and replace my modem to DOCSIS 3.0. I hadn't installed tuning adapters in North Las Vegas yet. I have a Premier and Series 3 Tivo. I went in to pick up the modem and asked about tuning adapters. I told them I didn't think I was missing any channels. He looked it up and could see that I wasn't. I asked him if maybe SDV hadn't made it's way to North Las Vegas yet. He said possibly. He gave me 2 adapters, and we agreed that I probably shouldn't install them until I start missing channels.
  2. wwu123

    wwu123 Member

    May 14, 2008
    Any update from Tivo users in Las Vegas or Henderson whether tuning adapters are needed for Tivo's, particularly if one is not subscribing to any premium channels or pay-per-view?

    Thinking of passing my Tivo Premiere to my parents there, but much easier if there isn't the added complication of tuning adapters, which I read sometimes need extra rebooting and other hassles.
  3. ajwees41

    ajwees41 Active Member

    May 7, 2006
    Cox Omaha is using SDV for more than premium channels less viewed digital channels are also on SDV.
  4. nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

    Feb 5, 2011
    Cox Cable...
    I'm in the southern NV area (I don't disclose exactly where on public forums or social media). I have Cox.

    I've had TAs since 06-18-2013 now, and it took a while before I would lose any channels if I removed them.

    Then, out of nowhere, months beyond the cutoff date to have them installed, ~200 channels were reported by the TA diag screens, but I didn't find many I ever would watch to be missing, without the TAs. The TA diags only provide how many SDV channels are known to it, without specifying which ones they actually are.

    Now, I lose some of what could be considered "basic" channels, the "pak" channels, and most movie channels without them.

    Just very recently, one of the largest true channel additions I've seen came up in a TiVo displayed lineup change message. As long as I've had TiVo, even before SDV, I'd get messages about channels being deleted and added, which were actually just renames, like dropping or adding "DT" or "P" on the end of the channel name, while the nothing else changed. For some reason, they do this frequently, and keep changing that "DT" or "P" as the end of the name. For a TiVo user, it's a nuisance (for me, anyway).

    It's reached the point where I absolutely can't go without the TAs, but some may not know they are missing anything, unless they hook up a TA and see. Some may have no idea how much is SDV, unless they remove the TA and see what they no longer have.

    I have no premium channels, nor do I use PPV, so it would seem those were the channels they started with. I do know the first very noticeable trial channels they moved to SDV, which come with all levels of TV, are channels 2 and 4. If you can not get 2 & 4, in the Las Vegas, and surrounding areas, you are in a SDV active area. You can get those channels on higher numbered channels, without SDV, but without SDV, you can't get them on 2 & 4.

    Since close to nobody watches those channels, it was a good place for them to start with, to move a couple channels, and see how it worked.

    If you can't get 2 & 4 on 2 & 4, then I'd say get a TA or TAs (one required, per TiVo). If you still get 2 & 4 on 2 & 4, I feel it is safe to say you don't need TAs (yet). But, if they will give them to you (I deal with a local Cox store, not some call-center in Nebraska, that has no clue what the deal is here), I'd find a Cox store/center near you, walk in, and ask for them. I recommend against having the equipment and kits shipped to you, for the best results and experience.

    Not only do you get a free TA, you also get a self-install kit. Each kit box includes directions/diagrams, a free two-way splitter, nice RG6 cable, and, best of all, a free PoE filter (to keep any MoCA signals from getting into the Cisco TA, which cannot deal with MoCA signals getting into it).

    I recommend not to use the RG59 cable that comes in the bag the TA comes in, unless it is just until you can get a RG6 cable to take its place. Also, beware of RG59 cables, which have RG6 sized ends on them. These cables will still say RG59 on the actual cable casing, so they can be identified (thankfully). If they have no markings, it's safe to assume they are also junk. RG-59 is so thin, that you can bend the center conductor with no effort (and draw blood if not careful), while the RG6 conductor is thick enough that you might need a tool to bend it. The PITA ones are the RG59 ones, that use a special end where the RG59 slides inside the fake RG6 end.

    Best of all, if you return the TAs, or swap them out, Cox doesn't require return of the self-install kit contents. So, I wound up with 3 extra kits, which included the previously mentioned contents, which would cost you ~$15-$20 per kit to buy.

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