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Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by jcaudle, Sep 12, 2006.
well I am glad it all worked out this is something we will all have to watch out for
I spoke with a Cox rep on the way to work today. It was actually exactly what I expected and not surprising at all since Cox has *always* charged for "digital service" on a per device basis. We thought about adding a digital box for my daughter's room a couple of years ago. I cancelled it when I found out that the box rental and service for the box were two seperate items. (I thought that we paid one fee for "digital service" for the entire house, but oh, nay, nay! 'Twas not to be.)
I will be returning the Cox HD DVR and my Digital box to the installer. Instead of renting those, I will be renting two CableCards for $1.99 each and paying for digital service for each one.
(CSR said service the second one was $4.95 per month or something to that effect.)
So, deduct the equipment rental fees and DVR service fee, add the $3.98 to rent two CableCards, and maintain the two "digital" service fees that I already have, and I will save about $20 per month. That will easily amortize the Lifetime subscription change fee.
The only thing surprising about the call was that she wanted to be sure that the tech sent out "HiDef CableCards". I didn't expect her to know anything about Series 3, so I wasn't surprised when she didn't understand that it took two CableCards.
I've been running good ever since then (even restarted just to see if it would happen again) and all is good.
It's been a while since I've had a TiVo, I switched to a Scientific Atanta 8300HD from a DirecTiVo. Let's just say I would hump my new Series 3 if I didn't think it would de-value it!
It's so nice to be able to actually do simple things like search for programs, have multiple weeks worth of guide data, oh and having it actually record all of my programs will be nice too.
Oh, and my pesonal favorite: Being able to watch the beginning of a program that's currently being recorded and NOT have it jump to the end of the show when it stops recording.
I had decided that I would not buy an S3 after all when I learned that it would not support the increased functionality of the Ver. 2.0 CableCARD. But the reminders in the preceding posts of how great the TiVo software is, and, by inference, how primitive the SA software is, has made me start to reconsider.
Yeah, it's absolutely night and day.
Well, it's a software based product. Upgrades are always possible.
I just bought one from Ultimate Electronics! It was the easiest sale that Dale will make today. Funny thing, though. It took him a little while to find it in the warehouse.
"They didn't tell me the new ones were in BLACK boxes."
Ultimate Electronics on Rainbow in Las Vegas still has one in stock.
Cox can't be out until Wednesday, though. :-(
Okay forgo the biggest investment most people make in there entire lives, over a difference of 1.50 for a cable card or 7.50 for a cable card?
Dude its television......... Think about it?
I'm happy to report that I had a very good experience with my Cox Las Vegas CableCard install this afternoon.
The installer actually showed up about 45 minutes early, which was fine with me. He didn't really flinch when I showed him the S3, all I had to do was show him the CableCard slots and he was off.
He was on site about 25 minutes and everything checked out perfectly when he left. I re-ran Guided Setup afterwards and I've been running about nine hours now and everything is just like I'd hoped.
I've been happily recording two HD shows at a time ever since. Hope everyone else has the same experience.
What was the cost?
My cost was $30 each for the card install and $1.99 each per month. I returned my 8300HD so my net monthly bill goes down about six bucks, but it will take me ten months to break even after the install fees.
Has anyone in the LA/Orange County area gone through a cable card install yet? I have my appt for Wed but am trying to get an earlier appt.
My Cox OC install is Tuesday. I will post my experiences. Hopefully they are as good as some of the others recently posted.
Now I'm really confused - I live in Henderson, NV - just outside Las Vegas and I was quoted $13.98 for 2 cards per month + $60 to roll truck !
is there such a thing as a hi def vs a non hi def cable card ?
i am thinking of getting a tivo series 3 and i need to know when i call cox
i am sorry if this is a dumb question
No ... there is no such thing as an "HD CableCard" vs. an "SD CableCard".
A CableCard is a CableCard and when it comes to HD vs. SD.
Just for kicks ... you could ask for a Multistream CableCard. The CSR probably won't know what the heck you're talking about ... but hey ... you can ask.
Note: In theory, a single multistream cablecard could be used instead of two single stream cablecards ... but AFAIK no cable companies are deploying multistream cablecards yet so for now ... that's just a theory.
so i assume, when they say hi def , they are asking about the service, not the hardware ???
also if one could get a multi stream card....
and since it has 2 slots, could you do 4 recordings at once ???
also can you currently record pause and watch live tivo on 2 hi def channels at the same time ?
I finally got my Tivo in this morning, not exactly next day air but then Tivo apologized already and refunded the charge for shipping so I am happy with everything so far.
I called Cox Fairfax and have it scheduled for the cable cards on Wednesday 9/20 between 3&5. Normally they show on time, hopefully he won't be too early. It's kind of hard to explain to the boss why I want to leave early that day.
Talking to the sales rep wasn't too fun. I think I went over that I wanted to turn in one cable box for two cable cards about 5 times before she gave up and just wrote up the ticket like I told her to. My experience with thier techs have been good so far The last one spent quite a long time to finally determine that my cable line was bad because the cable had degraded itself, and then proceeded to run my very own line to the main box instead of sharing with my condo neighbors.
I hope my install goes as well as the others, I leave the next day for a week trip and need the dual tuner! Too many interesting new shows and all at the same time!
No. CableCards are only one part of the equation. The multi-stream cards aren't even limited to two streams ... a single multistream can support four or five streams. But, you also need hardware / functionality in the host (S3). The S3 is set up to allow recording 2 shows at once ... so ... that's what you're going to get (with two single stream cards or one multistream cards).
Yes, you can record two high definition shows at the same time. The exception would be if you only have one single stream card installed. Right now, if you have one single stream card installed, the S3 will revert to a "single tuner" mode where you can only record one thing at a time (SD or HD, doesn't matter).