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Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Malcontent, Aug 14, 2012.
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I liked the first episode a lot. Hope it stays good.
From the previews it looks like the storyline will continue. It doesn't look like a single case per episode kind of show. There may be one new case to solve with some story lines persisting.
Was looking forward to a period drama about this time in America but was disappointed by the production values. The whole thing was obviously set on a sound stage, (even thought I saw the vibration of a green screen backdrop at one point), Not what I expect from BBC quality, honestly. Child rape was just...too heavy for a starter episode.
I agree the crime was very disturbing, first episode or not. When the wife asked if he "had his way with her" I wish Copper had told her the fact that he raped her after she was dead. "Had his way with her" sounds like something that happens in a Harlequin romance.
I didn't like it. So many characters who all looked alike to me. Dialog difficult to understand. Homicide was one of my favorite shows so I'm disappointed.
I thought the show was uncredibly dark. I thought the darkness was unrelieved by the minor victory the detective made against his corrupt bosses and the Tammany Hall political crowd.
Also, I'm not sure of the Historical accuracy of what we saw. The Civil War was 1861-1865 and therefore was still being fought in 1864. There was no reference to it that I remember, although we caught a glimpse of a sailor in a Union Blue uniform, on crutches and missing a foot. Presumably that was the conflict where "Captain Morehouse" lost his leg and was presumably saved by a wounded "Sergeant" Corcoran.
"Boss" Tweed ran the Tammany Hall political machine from 1850-1870, but was not mentioned that I recall. But only the BBC would originate a program about the original corrupt Democratic political machine with two months and change before the US election. Tammany Hall's significance is that it's success spawned similar political machines in Boston, Chicago, Cleveland, Kansas City, Philidelphia, New Orleans, etc. These machines dominated 19th century politics until Theodore Roosevelt put an end to political patronage with Civil Service reforms in the first half of the 20th Century. In the 21st Century, only the Chicago political machine retains significant power.
I am going to watch one or more additional episodes before making a call, but I generally look for historical accuracy in period drama series, and so far this one has not impressed me in this regard.
Turn on Close Caption.
I like it, told my brother that this is the good old days that the Republicans want to return everyone to.
I'm 20 minutes in and the war is mentioned three times already. The dialog could be 1866 rather than 1864 but there were three mentions of characters being in the war.
Give it time for mentioning other things. It is a series not a movie or mini series.
Edit to add: I think you had better watch again. There is a whole conversation about McClellan running for President and lincolns emancipation proclamation and who will carry the city in the election and how Tammany will deal with it.
You missed a lot.
Isn't this produced by BBC America, not BBC?
Kinda like comparing Top Gear to Top Gear America.
I liked it, but I agree it was difficult to distinguish between Maguire and Corcoran Maquire had more curly hair than Corcoran and had more facial hair or maybe just darker facial hair. I kept that in mind each time I saw them and I'm hoping it gets easier to tell them apart.
Correct, it's a BBCA production.
I re-watched the episode, and I agree with most of what I missed. But honestly, I have to watch the closed captions or I lose whole parts of the dialogue in the thick Irish brogue.
But notice, "Boss" Tweed was not mentioned. Nor was it generally true that every white man had a vote, particularly Irish immigrants. Generally only propertied white men had a vote, and the status of the Irish in NYC was barely higher than the "negroes".
It is therefore an exaggeration to say that the votes in "Five Corners" would substantually effect the NYC results in the Presidential primary nominations. There were very few votes to be had in Five Corners.
Stand corrected, smart ass.
That shot of Andrea Mitchell is not something I want to start my day with.
I thought the show was pretty good. Definite keeper for me. I had no problem understanding the dialogue.
i'm loving the show.
I don't quite understand what is difficult to understand abt the accent-
I am amazed at how much i'm missing with regards to the historical references tho-- I'm glad i've kept the episodes for re-watching. I'm visiting NYC in Oct & hope to find a good historical tour of that area. I did find this page that might be of interest to people. http://www.flickr.com/photos/amapple/5630172156/
I just caught the pilot. Very good. This shows that you can write a crime drama without using the scripts from 23 previous shows. I wish I could get it in HD.
Prediction: Just as the black man is about to be lynched, Corcoran will reveal to Morehouse that it was the African-American doctor who saved him by amputating his leg.
That method of paying another to serve your sentence is actually going on right now in China.