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Control XL4 Remotely?

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by Teeps, Jul 15, 2012.

  1. Teeps

    Teeps Active Member

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    Setup proposed:
    S3 in viewing room connected to home network, via eithernet cable to wireless bridge.
    *(yet to be purchased)*
    XL4 in another room connected to home network, via eithernet cable to wireless router.

    Question:
    Can I operate* the XL4 from the viewing room through the S3 TiVo?

    Operate*
    Complete initial (guided) setup
    Create season passes
    Access SP Manager
    Create single recordings, etc
    Access to do list
    Access now playing list
    Watch programs recorded (on XL4) in viewing room via S3

    A simple yes or no answer or a link to the information, is all I seek.

    Thanks for the help
     
  2. HomeUser

    HomeUser Active Member

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    DVR to DVR the simple answer would be no.

    You can do most on-line using a PC Find TV Shows or On-Line TiVo Apps
    • No, Complete initial (guided) setup
    • On-Line, Create season passes
    • On-Line, Access SP Manager
    • On-Line, Create single recordings, etc
    • On-Line, Access to do list
    • Yes, Access now playing list
    • Yes, Watch programs recorded (on XL4) in viewing room via S3
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  3. Teeps

    Teeps Active Member

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    Though full functionality through the S3 would be perfect, for my situation.
    What you have outlined will certainly work.

    All I would have to do is connect XL4 to the computer monitor, in the room, to perform guided setup.

    Thanks for the info.
     
  4. dianebrat

    dianebrat I refuse to accept your reality TCF Club

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    Dumb question because I just can't see the end game here.
    Is there a specific reason the XL4 can't live in the same room as the S3 where you do your viewing?
    The reason you have that limitation being stated might have made it a lot easier for folks to give you plenty of additional options.
     
  5. Teeps

    Teeps Active Member

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    I didn't think the minutia of the situation was germane to my question.
    But since you ask:
    I'm out of space in the viewing room.
    2 TiVos, 2 dvd players, 1 vcr(yes I know), 1 home theater computer, 1 record player(yes I know), 1 stereo receiver and the TV. Additionally 2 cupboards of vinyl records, cassette tapes, CDs & DVDs.

    I would also have to add an additional RG6 feed for the XL4, a tuning adapter and a UPS.
    My home is on a slab and has exposed vaulted ceilings. Which make "simple" cabling difficult and expensive.

    I got the answer I was looking for, though not optimum will work; as I said...

    But, thanks for your interest.
     
  6. BigJimOutlaw

    BigJimOutlaw Active Member

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    Nothing wrong with having vinyl, etc. :) If you happen to have an ipod/iphone/ipad/android the Tivo app would be useful for many of the "management" tasks.

    The asterisk on watching programs between S3's and XL4s is whether there is copy protection on the recordings or not.
     
  7. ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    Going through a Tivo to control another Tivo? NO!

    An alternative is to use a networked device such as ipad, iphone, android, connected to your network and with Network Remote control activated, you can control either. You would need a Tivo app but they are free.
     
  8. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    John's...
    Well, if the HTPC is usable as a regular computer, you could use kmttg to control the XL4.
     
  9. Teeps

    Teeps Active Member

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    Yes I have that ability, hand held and the htpc. Just trying to simplify things.

    Just viewed TiVo.com, again, you are correct copy protected material is not transferable.

    Other Non-transferrable content

    The prohibition icon (red circle with slash) appears next to recordings that cannot be transferred. Examples of non-transferable content include:
    Digital download content from Amazon or TiVoCast
    High definition recording from a TiVo HD or Premiere boxes to a Series2
    Copy-protected material


    This IS a deal breaker.

    My origianl question is MOOT.

    Thanks for all the interest.
     
  10. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    John's...
    You could replace the S3 with a Premiere and use streaming. I'm not suggesting it mind you. Just pointing out that it is an option.
     
  11. Teeps

    Teeps Active Member

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    Do you know (first person) that copy protected material can be transferred or streamed between Premier and XL4.
    TiVo.com says no.
    http://support.tivo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/161
     
  12. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    Sorry, you're wrong. TiVo says it can't be transferred. It most definitely can be streamed. Transferring creates a copy. Streaming doesn't.
     
  13. jrtroo

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  14. Teeps

    Teeps Active Member

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    Ok. I think I have it now.

    No XL4 for me... for now.

    Thanks again to all responders.
     
  15. Teeps

    Teeps Active Member

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  16. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    John's...
    I note that Verizon FIOS is available in at least part of Torrance. Have you investigated switching? They didn't copy protect anything until recently. Even now, it's only HBO and so far not everywhere for that.

    They support CableCARD. Better yet, no TAs.
     
  17. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    John's...
    I think his post was in response to this post of yours (emphasis mine):

     
  18. Teeps

    Teeps Active Member

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    Yes I know and I would drop kick time warner in a heart beat to get FIOS, if it was available.
    FIOS said: that they will not come to my 'hood because ATT has control of the area.
     
  19. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    Well, that sucks 'cause that means I'll never get it either. :mad:
     

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