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Component output confusion

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by tomhorsley, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. MScottC

    MScottC Member

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    Dan, my guess is anyone who wants to sling a premium channel recording if those aren't allowed to stream out of the local network.
     
  2. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    The should be... Stream should work while copy should fail - have we heard something different with stream away from home?
     
  3. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    I plan to keep my Sling Box 350 connected. But I'll probably retire my Hava HD. Although I need to get the adapter for the Mini so I can connect my Slingbox to it. Currently it's on one of my Elites.
     
  4. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    It's unclear. A couple of the reviewers mentioned that they were unable to stream premium channels outside the home. The CableCARD spec doesn't really cover this scenario so who knows what they'll have to do to prevent from getting sued.
     
  5. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Sling has years and years of experience in adaptive encoding. I doubt very much Stream will be better at adapting to low and changing WAN bandwidth while providing a good picture. Plus at least for me if there is no PC client such that I can use a laptop then out of home streaming is of little to no value - I don't use Apple or Android devices. Finally, being able to capture/record Sling output is a recent capability I find very useful and a way to circumvent CCI byte if needed, something that cannot currently be done with Stream output. For in home use Stream is a more elegant solution, but if I'm at home then I'd rather use a real TV to stream to, and all my TVs have a series 4 or higher stream client ready to serve that purpose. Those are some reasons why Stream is of little value to me compared to Slingbox and will likely continue to be so for years.
     
  6. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Isn't capturing from Slingbox the same as "Download" on the Stream? (Minus the CCI limitation) I'm betting if they had a PC client you'd find the Stream a lot more useful.

    Although you're probably right about the adaptive encoding part. But I had one of the original Slingboxes, which wasn't very hood at it either, and it was still watchable most of the time. Plus TiVo has the advantage of learning from what Sling has done.
     
  7. hybucket

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    It's been a while, but rather than start a new thread, I"ll see if this is still active.
    Is there any particular reason the basic Roamio doesn't have component video output? I'm not too tech savvy, but I ask because I have an older HDTV and there is only one HDMI input, which now is being used by a blu-Ray player, leaving no room for HDMI output from the Roamio. I could move the player to component, I suppose, if HDMI is the only output to get HD.
     
  8. SugarBowl

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    Is this true? I found 2 of these Red/White/Yellow breakout cables in my 'box of cables' and they worked fine on the mini. They were old cables. I'm not sure where they came from.


    There is no breakout cable included with the mini.
     
  9. SugarBowl

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    You'll have to move the bluray player to component, or you can get a mini and use the component output from the mini.
     
  10. hybucket

    hybucket Member

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    Thanks - I'm not familiar with the mini...I"ll check it out. (ANd I apologize for the duplicate posting on another thread).
     
  11. DeltaOne

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    Check out item 8202 at monoprice.com. Add HDMI ports to your setup.
     
  12. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    Get an HDMI switch from Monoprice. That is a much better solution than using analog connections.

    EDIT: Whoops! i guess DeltaOne already posted about an HDMi switch.
     
  13. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    Yes it's true there's no cables other than hdmi included with the mini. Also FYI, the red/white/yellow cables aren't component, those are composite and you will NOT get HD from that connection.
     
  14. SugarBowl

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    I meant, is it true that a special cable is required, because that was not my experience.

    And the colors don't really mean anything. You can definitely transmit a component HD signal with a Red/Yellow/White cable.
     
  15. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    But the connection signal itself from the basic Roamio doesn't support component video, only composite and L/R audio.
     
  16. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    Maybe I am confused, but I do not see how the Roamio Basic has Component.

    If you look at the Mini it has both A/V (Composite) and Component ports. If you do not have HDMI on your TV, you could use the Component out for HD video and the A/V out for audio. No problem...

    On the Roamio Basic, it only appears to have A/V (Composite) which would include: White - Left Channel, Red - Right Channel, yellow - Composite Video

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    You could do this for either the Mini or the Roamio Basic and it would work just fine @ $5 from Amazon:

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  17. rainwater

    rainwater Active Member

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    It doesn't have component, only composite through the breakout cables. The Plus and Pro models have component though.
     
  18. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    You'd only be able to do that with that breakout cable if the source device (mini, Roamio, etc) has the capability to output an analog component video signal from its hdmi port, similar to a DVI-I connection.
     
  19. aghusker

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    Can anyone with a Mini share if this type of basic HDMI to component/stereo cable (not a conversion box, just a cable) works with Mini?
    I'm 90% sure the answer is No, it won't work.

    You have to use the breakout cables with mini to get component and sound, I believe.
     

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