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Component output confusion

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by tomhorsley, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. tomhorsley

    tomhorsley Active Member

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    The pictures of the back of the Roamio Pro and Plus clearly show component output connectors.

    The tivo.com feature comparison web page for the Roamios clearly shows an X (nada) for component output for all 3 models.

    Various reviews say it does have component output.

    Will someone who couldn't wait and got next day shipment please report on the actual state of affairs? Are the component output connectors only there for decoration, or can you get a picture on them?

    Thanks in advance.

    (I would vastly prefer that the component output works - I have nothing but trouble with HDCP - things like switching the TV input for a minute then switching back sometimes takes forever to decide that it is valid to send a picture again. There are so many incompetent implementations of HDCP on devices with HDMI output, and I know what category I'd expect the TiVo engineers to fall in :).
     
  2. Philmatic

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    Component output is there and it works.
     
  3. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Basic...
    [​IMG]
    Plus/Pro...
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    The A/V port on the basic unit is the same as the composite (RCA) breakout port on the Mini. So it does not look like it has component video.
     
  4. series5orpremier

    series5orpremier Active Member

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    For the AV breakout cable, will any 3.5mm to composite cable like for camcorders work or must the cable be supplied by Tivo? No specific cable accessory on Tivo.com says it's for Roamio. Or will an AV breakout cable be included in the Roamio box?
     
  5. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    On the Mini it took a specific one because the ground was in a different place then most breakout cables (which are typically designed for Apple devices) But as long as the ground is in the right spot the other 3 cables are interchangeable so it'll work even if you have to mismatch the colors.

    I have no idea if they include one in the box. They didn't with the Mini. And the cables for the Mini didn't show up for like 2 weeks after the Mini was released. I bet the Mini one would work, but those are sold as a set and relatively expensive, and you'd end up with a component cable you didn't need.
     
  6. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    A 1/8th inch phone plug with ground somewhere other than where it's been for the last half century or so?

    And someone got paid to come up with that idea?

    Seriously?
     
  7. SugarBowl

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    https://www.tivo.com/shop/detail/av-cable

    The mini accessory has component video.

    ah, but looking at the back of the mini, it has 2 breakout plugs.
     
  8. tomhorsley

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    I finally found the webmaster feedback form on tivo.com and mailed them pointing out that the pictures of the pro and plus clearly show component out connectors and the "specifications" tab on the "shop for Roamio" page clearly says none of the models support component output. Maybe they'll fix the web page or clarify that the connectors are just there for decoration.

    I still hope to hear from someone who actually hooked up component cables to a pro or plus model and got a picture from them on their TV :).
     
  9. jessehere

    jessehere New Member

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    hope they have the component connectors like shown in the start page!
     
  10. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    The back of the Roamio basic shows a port labeled "A/V".
    The Back of the Mini has a port labeled "A/V" and a port labeled "Component".

    On the Mini the A/V port is for the composite video and L/R stereo audio breakout cable.
    While the port labeled Component is for the RGB breakout cable.

    So I would think the Roamio Basic only has Composite video and L/R stereo audio for an analog output.

    I'm actually surprised the Plus and Pro still have component outputs.
     
  11. Big Boy Laroux

    Big Boy Laroux New Member

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    I'm actually ecstatic about that. I still have a big ol' mitsubishi HD tv that I'm going to run into the ground, and it doesn't have HDMI.

    And all receivers that convert hdmi to component downgrade signal to 720p (at least last time i researched).
     
  12. HenryFarpolo

    HenryFarpolo New Member

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    I have the Plus and have both component and HDMI connected to my TV. As with prior TIVO's they are both active, and in my case, both work.
     
  13. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    I've seen video components that have only component (RGBHV, YCbCr, YUV, etc.) connections on them, but the Y (green colored luminance +sync/color difference signal) also carries the composite video feed if so selected in the menu. This could be the case with the 1/8" A/V jack on the Basic.
     
  14. tomhorsley

    tomhorsley Active Member

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    Excellent! Thanks for the confirmation they connectors work.
     
  15. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    I forgot about those. My GFs Vizio Tv does that. I had not run across it before until I went to hook up an old analog device to the TV.
     
  16. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Maybe. That would be pretty cool if that's how it worked.
     
  17. tomhorsley

    tomhorsley Active Member

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    Hey! They actually fixed the web page to show the Pro and Plus have component out now. Maybe the folks complaining about the base model showing gigabit ethernet support could get them to fix that as well
     
  18. bucm4sko24wle2mi

    bucm4sko24wle2mi New Member

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    I hope so, too.
     
  19. Bierboy

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    For us Slingbox Pro users, they're essential...:D
     
  20. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    But with built in Streaming and out of home Streaming coming soon I wonder how many people with the Plus/Pro will continue to use a Slingbox?
     

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