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Company Won't provide Cable Card

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by crabell, Dec 13, 2006.

  1. crabell

    crabell New Member

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    I'll try to get some answers for you...

    1. The Amazon Unbox does NOT work in Puerto Rico, since we are not a US state. They can tell where you are by your IP address. If you could somehow fake your IP address so that it tells Amazon you are somewhere in the US I guess it would work, but I don't know of anyone that has done this. Instead of renting or buying from Amazon Unbox I use the Netflix service (not the online portion of it) to watch all the DVD's I want for a fixed monthly price and no late fees.

    2. I don't know the current pricing in Best Buy, but I got mine in Costco for $249.99 + tax. You may want to check it out if you, or someone you know, has a membership.

    3. Regarding on-line account setup... I believe you need to call TiVo to setup your account and then you can make whatever changes you want on-line. They may have changed this, I guess I would try it before calling just in case.

    4. I'm not sure what you mean by "use my cable decoder directly connected to the tivo hd decoder so i can star setting up my account before i get my cable card". If you mean connect your cable modem directly to the back of the TiVo, then you can NOT, you would need to get a wired hub (some are very cheap) if your modem is next to your TiVo or a Wireless Router (more expensive and harder to set up) if you will connect your TiVo wirelessly (you would also need TiVo's wireless adapted, which is locally available at some Radio Shack locations). ...If you mean something else, please explain.

    If I were you I would activate the TiVo and get it working without CableCards, then force the connection to TiVo several times until you get the latest software version (9.3?) before you install your CableCard.

    Good luck getting your M-Card!
     
  2. losorio

    losorio New Member

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    What i mean by this is basically leave the cable decoder untocuhed and instead of connecting the coax cable that comes from the cable box to the tv, connecting it to the Tivo HD, same as the instructions provided online, i imagine most people did it this way in earlier days when cable companies in PR didn't provide cable cards.

    As for netflix it basically didn't work for me, movies took way too long to arrive by mail, it seems digital video streaming services like unbox, apple tv and vudu is gonna be the way of the future (but that's another topic jeje)
     
  3. crabell

    crabell New Member

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    With a TiVo HD or S3 you do NOT use your Cable Box at all (For TiVo Series 2's you do), just connect the coax cable from the wall to the back of your TiVo and return your Cable Box. You may be looking that the diagrams for an S2. If you want to keep your cable box while you setup your TiVo, then you need to split the cable before it gets to your Cable Box.

    Regarding the Netflix, Unbox, etc. topic, I guess it depends on what you want to get out of the service and it is another subject... It's just too bad it's not working outside the US for now.

    Good luck!
     
  4. losorio

    losorio New Member

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    Hmm that's awesome, so basically all you need a cable card for is to get hd channels ? What happens if you plug your coax cable directly from the wall to Tivo HD, do you get all the channels in your line up except the hd channels?

    I'm asking because i'm really not into hd since the variety is not that much, so if I don't get the cable card and still manage to get Tivo with my provider and return the decoder box thats like a 22 dollar a month saving.
     
  5. crabell

    crabell New Member

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    If you use a TiVo HD without a CableCard you will be able to use channels 2-99 on each tuner only. The CableCard replaces your cablebox and decodes any digital and premium channels you may have (channels 100 & up) and also decodes HD channels if you choose to pay for this option.

    I assume you are currently paying for Onelink's "HD DVR", since you menioned a $22 saving. If that is the case I would return the Box BEFORE the CableCard installation, just in case. I returned mine after my CableCard installation and they screwed my CableCard configuration, but maybe it was an isolated event.

    You may be saving $22/month, but remember that you would still need to pay for the CableCard ($1.75/ card + $6.00 aceess charge). If you decide to activate the HD channels there is an additional (subtantial) charge for them, which varies depending on your service level.

    You will probably end up saving some money, but I would ask Esther Curbelo about the pricing, just so you know what you are getting into.

    Good Luck!
     
  6. losorio

    losorio New Member

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    If i don't need the cable card to have the 2-99 channel line up i'm golden, since i don't watch any of the 100 and up crappy channel lineup, all the good ones like mtv, comedy central and the network channels are in the 2-99 line up, and i don't have any premiums like hbo or showtime, this is great news, gonna be saving a lot of money in my monthly bill. DVR charges from One link are insane.

    You guys have been a lot of help, it's amazing what you can learn on these forums.

    Another question, can you record a program and view something else while recording ?
     
  7. crabell

    crabell New Member

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    If you don't watch any channels above 99 you actually don't need at TiVo HD, you could manage with a TiVo Series 2, Double Tuner. But, since you can't order them from tivo.com from PR and I believe they are no longer beign manufactured you might as well go for the TiVo HD. I actually saw an S2 at Radio Shack for $150, but I don't think its worth it... they are too slow and have less storage capacity (80 hrs).
    Also if you get a TiVo HD and decide to get premium channles, HD, etc you have the capability and the S2 doesn't.

    Yes you can! You can watch one channels while recording another or record two channels, while watching a recorded program.

    Good luck!
     
  8. losorio

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    I actually saw a series 2 today at best buy priced at $136.00 after the rebate, but after reading this i'll sleep on it cause looks like HD is the way of the future, but frankly i never watched any of the HD channels so I'm kinda giving my cash away to one link. As for it being slow i imagine it must be kind of bothersome. I remember my first 40 hr DVR was and Echostar with Dish and that damn thing was slow as hell plus it froze half the time, hated it. Probably go the HD way, we'll see. Thanks for all the info.
     
  9. crabell

    crabell New Member

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    If I were you I would be careful about the "rebate" unless its automatic (as opposed to mail-in) or you are 100% sure you qualify. Sometimes it can be kind of tricky to actually get these rebates due to the terms and conditions, expiration dates, etc.

    I would go with the TiVo HD because it is faster, has more storage capacity (180 hrs. vs 80), the storage capacity can be easily expanded via eSATA, can decode digital & HD programming with CableCards (if you decide to do that in the future) and has the latest technology of any TiVo DVR, so you know it won't become obsolete anytime soon.

    Good Luck!
     
  10. losorio

    losorio New Member

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    I buyed the Tivo hd from Best Buy, my pocket got murdered, gonna be installing i'll keep you guys posted about my install, hope everything flows :D
     
  11. losorio

    losorio New Member

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    Just finished installing my tivo hd, all i can say is WOWOWOW. My first tivo ever and is truly amazing, image quality is unreal and the user friendly menus are heaven. I hated my cable dvr and of course will be returning it first thing monday morning. Gonna order the M-card on the on monday and see how everything turns out. TIVO FTW :D
     
  12. crabell

    crabell New Member

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    I'm glad you like it and wait until you get the hang of Season Passes, Wishlists, TiVo Suggestions, TiVo Desktop, etc.

    Did you connect it to your home network? Doing so adds a bunch of interesting features you may find interesting.

    It look like you decided to get digital and/or Premium channles... Good luck with your M-Card installation.

    Enjoy you new TiVo!
     
  13. Jul 5, 2008 #233 of 291
    Joybob

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    According to El Nuevo Dia, Liberty Cablevision is going to start offering 30 mbps internet speeds.

    Why are these guys lagging so far behind them?
     
  14. Jul 6, 2008 #234 of 291
    shawtd

    shawtd New Member

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    Hey guys. I just moved to PR from Texas last month. I've got a s3 tivo and love it. But when I called OL to set up my install they told me they didn't have cable cards. None. Period. I just assumed they were behind the times. However, I read every post in this thread today starting from 11/2006.

    I've learned a lot, but still have one important question. How is picture quality? Right now, I've got the simple cable hooked to my S3 with no cable cards. I get 2-99, but most of the channels get poor picture. Almost none of the channels are clear.

    So, what is your picture quality like on regular channels? How about digital channels? How about the HD channels?

    Lastly, are any of the CBS, ABC, NBC channels in HD?

    Thanks in advance for all the help. You guys are top notch!
     
  15. Jul 6, 2008 #235 of 291
    Joybob

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    Regular channels look regular, digital channels look a bit better, HD channels look better than some of what I've seen from the states; no pixelation or audio problems.
     
  16. Jul 6, 2008 #236 of 291
    shawtd

    shawtd New Member

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    Joybob-First of all, thanks for the reply. But, I've got to ask....regular for here or regular for the states. I've got a co-worker/friend who has lived here for 4 years and says my picture is what is normal for here. It is NOT normal for Texas, Indiana, or Illinois. So, is regular a good clear picture or fuzzy but regular for PR.

    Sorry for the pestering questions.

    Anybody else got input?

    Thanks!
     
  17. Jul 7, 2008 #237 of 291
    Joybob

    Joybob New Member

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    I might say fuzzy. The local fox channel is terrible. Depends on the channel mostly.

    Oh, ABC, NBC, FOX etc. are not HD since they are not broadcasted locally in high def.

    I'm a big fan of House so I end up having to download them to get it in high def.
     
  18. Jul 7, 2008 #238 of 291
    prpilot

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    They are lying.. Call again. Or call Ms Curbelo directly (her phone is somewhere in this thread. Unless they temporarily ran out, but that's a violation of the FCC mandate. If so, you should get the FCC engaged (they were the ones that fixed this whole mess initially!). You can submit an FCC complaint via their website. That's what I did, and now I have HD/Premium channels on my TiVo HD.

    Depends where you live. In my case, TBS and FOX look super crappy. The rest are ok (but none up to mainland standards). If you are having issues with the signal strength, you can call OneLink and have them re-wire your house (that's what my father-in-law did recently). You, of course, have to demonstrate that the signal is bad by usually tuning channels 2-99 on a big screen TV (42" or bigger).

    HD channels are simply amazing! I have NOT had any picture/audio quality issues.

    Nope.. we are still waiting for those affiliates to start transmitting in HD, which I don't have too much hope it will happen soon since their only advertisers seem to be Medalla.
    Thanks in advance for all the help. You guys are top notch![/QUOTE]
     
  19. Jul 7, 2008 #239 of 291
    crabell

    crabell New Member

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    Regarding the picture quality:
    Analog Channels 2-99 = Mediocre Quality, but get used to it.
    Digital Channels (100+) with Cable Box = Good Quality
    Digital Channels (100+) with CableCards = Very Good Quality
    HD Channles (600+) = Excellent Quality, depending on the original format (i.e. movies from the 50's upscaled do not look that good).

    Regarding the CableCards... Contact Ms. Esther Curbelo... she will get you your CableCards...

    Good Luck!
     
  20. xcapepr

    xcapepr New Member

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    Hello, I'm also from PR and struggling with Onelink to give me some CableCARDS. They carry them but they don't just hand them over. An installer has to come over, followed by a $30 chargo for the installation.

    I have an appointment for Thursday to have the CableCARD installed on the TiVo HD I purchased recently.

    Anyway, I have a question, the guy that helped me sad that only the main channel for each premium channel would be viewable (the main HOB, Starz, etc) instead of seeing the whole range of channels.

    Is that even true?
     

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